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Proud Boys denounce White Supremacy

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 1, 2020.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Racists always say they aren't racists.
     
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    Yes. Modern white supremacists have to play coy to stay relevant.
     
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    I'm just surprised to find out basso defends the proud boys. Actually, I am not.
     
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    I hope this actually is foreign agents sending these proud boys emails...I know Trumpers are stupid, but c’mon, this is almost like sending threats to other people via your work email

    Would they really operate like this?
     
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    The emails appear to come from overseas server.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-emails-proud-boys-vote-trump-linked-overseas-servers/

    Emails threatening Florida voters to "vote for Trump or else!" linked to overseas servers
    BY MELISSA QUINN, STEFAN BECKET AND GRAHAM KATES
    Washington — Dozens of voters in a heavily Democratic county in Florida and across several states reported receiving emails on Tuesday purporting to come from a right-wing group threatening to "come after" them unless they vote for President Trump.

    But an examination of the messages, which are now under investigation by state and federal authorities, shows they were sent via servers located overseas, raising questions about their origin amid concerns about voter intimidation just two weeks before Election Day.

    Democratic voters in Alachua County, Florida, began receiving the email on Tuesday morning, and voters in Alaska and Arizona also reported receiving the message. Early voting began in Florida on Monday. The emails appeared to come from the right-wing group The Proud Boys, and showed a "from" address of info@officialproudboys.com. The Proud Boys has been designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights advocacy group.

    "Vote for Trump or else!" the email's subject line proclaimed.

    "We are in possession of all your information (email, address, telephone… everything)," the message stated. "You are currently registered as a Democrat and we know this because we have gained access into the entire voting infrastructure. You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you. Change your party affiliation to Republican to let us know you received our message and will comply. We will know which candidate you voted for. I would take this seriously if I were you."

    While at first glance the email seems to come from an account under the domain of a website affiliated with The Proud Boys, a review of the source code embedded in seven emails reviewed by CBS News shows the message originated from IP addresses linked to servers located in Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Estonia.

    The IP addresses don't establish that the senders are based in those countries, since the messages could have been routed through the servers from nearly anywhere, according to Dmitri Alperovitch, the co-founder and former chief technology officer of cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike. He noted that the messages were sent via a "cloud infrastructure provider in Saudi Arabia called 'Saudi Executive Cloud.'"

    "It could be that they are simply relaying through this infrastructure," Alperovitch told CBS News in an email. "In fact, given how this email was sent, using their web interface, that's most likely the case — that the people behind this found a vulnerable server in Saudi through which they can route lots of emails."

    Alperovitch, who reviewed the source code from one of the emails, said that while the emails were sent through overseas servers, "there is no indication to suggest that it is a nation-state or otherwise foreign campaign."

    "These types of email campaigns are unfortunately trivial to execute for anyone with an internet connection and a just modicum of technical ability," he said.

    The website officialproudboys.com, first registered in 2017, was offline as of Tuesday, but archival versions show it was a pro-Proud Boys news site that sold merchandise promoting the group. Domain records show the site's owner initiated a domain transfer to a new web host on Monday. The domain's previous registrar, a company known as Ionos, did not respond to questions on Tuesday about the transfer or who might be behind the site.

    Enrique Tarrio, a Proud Boy leader, said Tuesday that the group wasn't involved, and that he didn't know who sent the emails. He said he's been in contact with the Alachua County Supervisor of Elections, as well as the FBI. Tarrio said he believes the emails were sent by "somebody that's not very fond of us."

    "If somebody's trying to intimidate voters, they're probably successful, the damage is done to some people that aren't very media savvy, you know, like a 70-year-old that gets an email like this and is not going to go out to vote," said Tarrio.

    In a statement on Wednesday, an FBI spokesperson declined to say whether the bureau is investigating the emails, but urged voters to report suspicious activity to the FBI's tip line.

    "Though the FBI's standard practice is to neither confirm nor deny any investigation, we take all election-related threats seriously whether it is vote fraud, voter suppression, or threats from cyber or foreign influence actors," the spokesperson said. "The FBI Jacksonville Division is committed to supporting our election security partners throughout the state of Florida, and protecting our communities as Americans exercise their right to vote."

    The Justice Department said through a spokesperson that it is "aware of reports that threatening correspondence referencing the current election have been delivered to residences in several states," while likewise declining to confirm or deny an investigation.

    "Voter intimidation is entirely unacceptable," the department's spokesperson said. "If appropriate, the Department will prosecute any civil or criminal violation to the fullest extent of the law."

    Alachua County is home to the city of Gainesville and the University of Florida, making it a Democratic stronghold in a deep-red part of the state. The county voted for Hillary Clinton over Mr. Trump in 2016 by a margin of 58% to 36%.

    How the sender connected the email addresses and voter registration status of the recipients was not immediately clear. But under Florida law, much of the personal information on voter registration forms — including birth dates, party affiliation, email addresses — is considered public record.

    Two of the emails shared with CBS News included home addresses of the recipients. One of those recipients said the sender appeared to be relying on outdated information, as he had not been registered at that address for months.

    Steve Orlando, a spokesman with the University of Florida, told CBS News that 183 people on campus — students, staff and alumni — received the email, and the university believes the account was "spoofed" to change the sender's name. Orlando said the FBI is investigating the matter.
    More at link
     
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    I could easily see that some anarchist/Antifa types were responsible for that email blast as an attempt to hurt the Proud Boys. Or it could be mischievous foreigners.
     
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    Apparently dni chief ratliffe thinks its actually iran (and russia) denouncing white supremacy...
     
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    Not really sure how spoofing emails from the proud boys would hurt Trump. Iranians are not very good at this game.

    Russian don't get caught.
     
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    Yeah I don’t really understand the angle here. Yes the right will say that Iran wanted Trump to look bad but on its face that’s ridiculous because that premise concludes that the American voters think of The Proud Boys/Neo Nazis and Trump as two in the same. Why is that an assumption that the Right wants to have?

    Also scaring Democrats into not voting is.... good for Biden????? That makes no sense in the most basic sense.

    Something is just off here. Either way I expect and want Biden to do what Trump did not do and announce that if Iran is found to be meddling.. even if it’s in his favor... he will take measures to punish Iran via sanctions etc.
     
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    I call bull ****. "Iran and Russia don't want you to vote for Biden!" LOL
    Blue team, I already cast my Biden vote. This still is another ridiculous joke.
     
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    I think the idea of foreign intervention like this (if this is foreign intervention) is not to tip the election one way or the other but to sow more division and chaos in our election.
     
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    All it's missing is the Kool-Aid Man screaming OOOOHHHH YEAAAAAAH
     
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    Glass breaks* cue the stone cold theme.
     
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    Further evidence you're a Russian troll.
     
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    Lol
     

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