Voter turnout is an issue among all groups but Hispanic turnout is really low. They aren't even registered. Of all Americans registered to vote, 76% are registered. Only 57% of Hispanics eligible to vote are registered. Less than 50% of those who are registered voted in 2016. In 2016 low black voter turnout killed Clinton. Even that low turnout for blacks was 59% of registered voters. I thought the one thing GWB was smart about was trying to get Republicans to cater to Hispanics. Maybe he wasn't smart about it but i dont get it. I do have my theories, mainly revolving around their view of government in their lives. I think they depend on family networks to the point of being apathetic to government
Just a guess. But case studies, especially recently, show demographics can be forgotten or untouched and need to be nurtured. But if only a small % of that demo is even registered to vote, it's not exactly low hanging fruit. There's probably better, more immediate ROI out there. I also imagine, just a guess, that a high % of Hispanics live in Republican states, and those states may make access to voting difficult on them.
I wouldn't mind seeing a breakdown by state on Hispanic / Latino voting. I know not all Latinos are alike. Cuban-Americans are rabidly Republican. Puerto Riquenos are Democrat. Mexican-Americans can be a mixed bag as far as who they vote for. OP brings up a couple points that could be discussed: "their view of government in their lives", "they depend on family networks to the point of being apathetic to government". I know many Latinos here in Texas do not want to be on the radar. They don't want / can't afford to be jacked around. Keep your head down, work hard, take care of your family. Maybe many don't have that paranoid feeling of having something to lose: they're coming to take our stuff! This is a decent article, although I can't read it all because I don't have a subscription. Voter outreach to Latinos sucks. Sure, Beto's painful Spanish might have got some to say, "Hey, a gringo who doesn't suck" and show up in 2018, but getting someone into their communities and really goosing them out to the polls........? https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2018/11/05/why-dont-latinos-vote
Cuban Americans are in a unique situation and politically they probably vote at a high rate. They are pro freedom. Thing is their numbers probably arent significant in the grand scheme of things.
It's always bothered me and I don't know why we don't. Most people I know obviously do, but many are not engaged. It's not something that's culturally ingrained and there's probably a plethora of reasons that would take a lot of time to explore and still not get a conclusive answer. I am curious why you seem to spend a lot of time as a black man contemplating what is going on with hispanic people. Nothing particularly offensive about it but I've noticed the pattern lol.
Pro-"freedom"? Just like older Americans from Vietnam, right? In both cases, they hate the communist governments that forced them to the United States. They're definitely not pro-freedom, but they hate anyone that is even remotely associated with socialism or communism and will align with politicians who want to dismantle social democracies. Their kids are much less likely to hold these views. Another example of this is when Americans from India (specifically Hindus) would vote for Trump over Bernie (and to a lesser degree Biden) because of Trump's support of Modi and the more friendly stance Democrats have toward Muslims. While I am sure the reasons are much deeper than I can express here, the reason for these groups to support Trump is not "freedom".
I was married to a Mexican American, we a have a son, but thats not the reason. This thread subject revolves around my fascination with Hispanics. I think Hispanics here do very well and they don't either criticize government or look for government help. They buy into the American Dream. Blacks can learn from Hispanics We are all unique but blacks are viewed as being closely related to Hispanics. One of my many issues with blacks is we dont realize Hispanics are way ahead of us.
I think a bit of the success is dependent on being white passing. If you're hispanic and have European ancestry, you will do much better than if you're indigenous or have African ancestry. Everyone should strive for greatness, and the game should not be completely rigged against you because you were born the wrong skin color.
It is freedom, or ani-socialism which they view socialism as anti-freedom. Whatever your grievances are with their politics, freedom is an issue
Definitely Hispanics and blacks aren't the same but its a larger issue. Hispanics are replacing blacks in the labor force, particularly the better paying trade skills
Freedom and anti-socialism are not synonyms. Freedom is a tenant of liberalism. Cuba was a dictatorship prior to Castro. Vietnam was a colony before the communists and anti-communists went to war.
Well, "pro-freedom" is the word choice of the Republican poster; but it does convey the idea. You trade a criminal regime for Fidel Castro. I wouldn't put out either one if they were on fire. But Cuban-Americans vote Republican who tend to speak in more bellicose terms about the Cuban government (still, all these years after a Democratic President's failed attempt to take back the island). And the Democrats all get lumped in on Cuba-coddling (Bernie Sanders would have got -15% of the Cuban-American vote).
These are facts. Hispanic wealth is increasing. Ours stalled thirty years ago. In the thread about what racism costs the country, black home ownership came up. It hasn't increased since 1970, while Hispanic home ownership is annually increasing. I have been regulated to general labor jobs the last few years. Contractors love Hispanics because of their work ethic and they question young black men. Thats reality
Neither. No need for that, i have a Finance degreeand got caught by the Great Recession. Im 45 and have over a decade of Finance work. I was unemployed so long i had to move forward. I do appreciate your concern but my concern is for young black men going forward. Thats why im conservative on black problems such as employment Employers are the ones not hiring blacks. We have to make ourselves more marketable
Freedom isn't a left or right thing. On a political scale, no matter the scale, it would be a scale independent of left or right. Freedom v Authority, something like that. A lack of freedom on a left scale looks like a communist state that forces everyone into their roles for the better of 'society' while a lack of freedom on the right tends to favor one class (whether by religion or race or political belief) while subjugating others. This subjugation I think many would argue happen economically if there are 0 or little ways for the poor to become rich then they are effectively a labor class. In general, most of the world's population is 'pro-freedom'. When you give citizens a choice, they usually choose the freedom to live how they want to live. The reason we've gone through history with Monarchs and such is because people didn't know they had the option, when given the option though, people always choose freedom.
