Voters grapple with political motivations driving COVID-19 response as deadly pandemic hits home

I know,

That Boomer thing is thrown around way to much but what really got me was him talking about people 45 don't know how to use computers.

Da ****?

 

I'm in a small rural town where more than 80% of the vote went to trump in 2016 and they are not afraid to speak dumb out loud. Especially if there is only white people around, that's when the dumbness really comes out. It is and always has been a hoax even when he admitted to lying about the seriousness of the virus. That was done because the Dems tricked him and he didn't really mean it. In the same breath they will also say if Clinton or Obama was in charge when covid hit millions would be dead (from this fake virus). I haven't been around many since he has come down with it so I'm not sure what their take is now... likely all the above including an attempted assassination by Obama like he did with a judge.

 

I heard from one - it was planned, an attack by the Dem.

 

As a General rule, people don’t like to admit when they are wrong. Then tack on emotion, misinformation. Then add confirmation bias. Studies show that jurors (who fairly reflect the general electorate) begin making up their minds during jury selection/voir dire and in opening statements, and if you don’t have them by then, you are facing a long uphill battle. Apply that to election politics and multiply by 100x.

 

No it is wrong to think that the "two sides of the aisle" is left and right, Republican and Democrat.

It forces many perfectly logical thinking conservatives to be lumped together with zoo animals.

The two sides of the aisle is science believers and the zoo.

Political affiliation and party are irrelevant.

Who cares if a hippie vegan left winger is a Democrat when they are anti vaccine and they think the virus is fake.

The only distinction is humans with primates.

Because any human who doesn't believe in science doesnt' deserve to be named human.

 

haha relax I should have included the word "and"

so let me clarify: a large # boomers AND 45 -65 dont know how to use a computer.. and add that by saying many not getting a smart phone right away and not finding facebook until last 6-9 years..
that is short short time for a lot of people.think about that they know nothing but office chain letters and last few years on facebook. its all new..

i work with people all the time in the 45-65 section thst can barely save a file. these people can now in last 6 - 9 years get on facebook. and likely they have a few other things -tik tok , instagram..

you are operating from bubble of thinking computer usage including access and smartphone ( iphone released 2007) was widespread. i believe you to be wrong

 

That's a small sample size, I work with people all the time 45 to 65 that can do much more than save a file.

Its condescending that you think I am operating from a bubble and don't know how people use computers, I am in that age range and was in on smart phone technology in the 90's.

The 1st smart phone was not the I phone and people 45 where 33 in 2007 so why would they not be up on smart phones.

I have been using a computer at work since 2005 and none of those jobs have been tech related.

Facebook is not even the 1st social media platform, people aged 45 where using myspace and downloading things from peer to peer like napster.

Maybe just maybe you work with a lot of people who don't know how to use computers, how many actual people are you talking about?

The median age of teachers in the US is about 45 and you think they can't work a computer?

Talk about operating from a bubble.

Using the word and did not make it better, it's amazing that you even went there.

 

amazing?
ok you like to argue lol. you operate in your bubble we all do. im sorry if you take it the wrong way.
i stand by my point of you being incorrect that facebook and my point of exposure not being always the metric YOU go by..
smartphones were invented in 2007.people didnt have them day 1. so a few years later = my window of 9 years. also not all of them rushed to facebook so yeah 6 to 9 years..

why is that so hard to accept?
you like to argue my semantics i stand by my point of this stuff and type of culture to be new. being on aol for a minute or myspace is way different than 2020 on your phone ( its amazing YOU even went there) not the same and you know it isnt... all day meme fb and tik tok city. that is last 6-9 years.
that is nothing. also none of these people gave a shat about politics and now their phonr is hammering it last 6-9 years..

short time..capiche?

 

What bubble do you think I am in?

And why do you keep talking about the Iphone as if that is a data point for anything.

This has nothing to do with semantics it has everything to do with you thinking most people 45 years old do not know how to work a computer, its ludacris.

It's very telling that you think the 1st smart phone was the Iphone, it was not the 1st widely used smart phone was the palm pilot and it was harder to use than an I phone and before that you had the samsung SPH 1300, the Iphone was the 1st modern smartphone and it was popular because it made things EASIER.

It's hard to accept because you are flat out wrong 50% of US homes had a pc in the year 2000, and then you have the raw numbers from 2014.

https://www.pewresearch.org/interne...internet-has-woven-itself-into-american-life/

What the hell dose getting political alerts have to do with people 45 to 60 knowing how to save a file?

Just admit hyperbole and we can stop you from further embarrassment..capiche?

 

Gen X is a bigger problem than most will admit. If you consider most over 65 support Biden and the youngest boomer is 55 yet the oldest is 74 then that means half of Trump's strongest demographic is gen X. I'm an Xer and find this embarrassing.

 

I think that chart is a little off, and most people born in the late 60's probably identify as Boomers. I think most people born in the early 80's identify as Gen X as well. I would put Gen X at 1969-1983, maybe 84.

The bulk of the Gen Xers I talk to at work or friends are absolutely -not- Trump backers, even the conservative, regularly GOP-backing voters. One of my closest friends who is Gen X and is absolutely a conservative, church going voter is going to vote Biden just to get Trump out of office. He's also a 47-year-old carpenter with a HS diploma who has been using a computer for as long as I've known him, about 20 years, @IBTL

 

embarrassment ? thats you my man... you like to argue and since I typically agree with you i feel bad to now have to embarrass you.

from your own link:

" 56% of adults ages 65 and older now say they use a computer" so 44% dont? how many dont ? cmon dude you are better than this..( i thought)

there are tons of people ESPECIALLY 45 -65 that didnt use computers and still dont..in last 6-9 years they have come on to facebook and similar via smartphone. this is not that hard to understand * i think*

pure math shows this and while your at it pull adoption numbers on the sph 1300 lol (talk about telling us what a nerd you are) so i can laugh at you some more. you like to argue I can too!

so lets review...45-65 year old plumber, waiter, electrician, truck driver,hairdresser this list is long..that dont use a smartphone until last 6-9 years and if you are bringing up palm pilot you have lost the argument too sorry.. more giggle..

my wife works with managers in retail sector and at one point she showed them 'save as' in one page in pdf by right clicking and literally 30 stores were jumping for joy not having to save individually. this is old lady 45 - 65 year. same people...
again you = your own bubble and apparently 44% lol ..smh cmon dude ..are you following yet? capiche?

so these same old lady pre 2010 ..along with all those truck drivers and plumbers and masses of people apparently a big number in your self owned link are barely into the bombardment that is political news facebook twitter tiktok. HUGE swaths of people that dont know this ALL FAIRLY NEW and it is 6-9 years new unlike the networks i mentioned and 4-5 sources along with a few magazines. now its in your pocket hard to avoid..

sure some of these people used myspace back in the day but that is as semantic, sh*it ,and antiquated as your palm pilot ( giggle) and other garbage takes youve stepped in.. you are having a bad day today..

if you want to argue so much like obrien i ask that you please "be better"..

you need to move on you look dumb and uneducated calling me "ludacris"

its" ludicrous" move out of the way.

 

@jiggyfly
your new nickname is ludicrous
my favorite btw

 

I'm 44 so I'm not in the older X category but anyone born in the early 80's is a millennial. I get along better with old millennials over old Xers just as old millennials don't have much in common with young millennials either. All that said, however you identify, you're technically X if you're born between 65-80 some define it as 61-80. They even introduced Xennial recently which is like 78-83. I identify with this group even though I'm 76.

Those between age 45-54 are undoubtedly Gen X and Trump has strong support there. I'm sure it varies substantially by region but in TX there's not much doubt many of my cohorts are deplorable. Even if I don't consider most my cohorts.

 

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Wow so i'm a b**** now?

You go zero to 60 real fast, talk about thin skinned.

So now tons of people don't know how to save a file as opposed to most people 45-65 and you missed the part about people who use computers at work.

I have no idea when the discussion changed from saving a file to getting political stuff through there phone, you are making FC proud the way you are changing the goalpost.

You want to tell us again how the smartphone was invented in 2007?

I see your argument style is to drown people with a load of stuff that means nothing to support your original statement.

Some of the these people used myspace back in the day?

Talk about stepping in it. anyway it's obvious you need to "win" this discussion since you went personal, its obvious you are young and take winning the interwebs seriously.

I will stop derailing this thread.

You win.

 

Seriously dude?

Hit dog holla.

 

Dude I was born pre-1969 and I consider Boomers a totally different generation.

As for the chart, they should mark a generation starting in 2020. If they don't put 2020 as a defining year, they are way off.

 

I was born before the late 60's and I don't consider myself a boomer and non of my friends do.

This is the definition of a boomer.

baby boom·er

noun
INFORMAL

1. a person born in the years following World War II, when there was a temporary marked increase in the birth rate.

The 60's are nowhere near WW II.