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Who is John Durham

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Sep 14, 2020.

  1. R0ckets03

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    Bro I could give a flying **** about Hillary being president. I don't have allegiance to any politician. Especially the lying scumbag snake oil salesman currently holding the highest office in the country. I am glad you get a boner knowing "your guy" is in power, but doing nothing to unite the country.

    Hillary also may not be the president ever, but she is also not a whiny little b**** like Donald who actually may end up in prison lol
     
  2. B@ffled

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    That has always been puzzling. Why did Comey do what he did? I think we'll find that there was significantly more on Weiner's laptop than Comey admitted and it was incriminating. I guess he made the investigation public to put an end to it.

    This corruption in the intel community started with the Bush/Reagan admins. It's not a D or R thing. It's whoever will play along thing.....or be blackmailed into it. It's got to stop.
     
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  3. gifford1967

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    Note the classic cult dynamic occurring here. When one aspect of objective reality cannot be denied, they must go through extreme contortions to rationalize it. It's fascinating and terrifying to see it occur in real time.
     
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  4. B@ffled

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    Love to hear your explanation
     
  5. gifford1967

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    My explanation for why Obama's DOJ publicly revealed the investigation into Hillary's emails on Weiner's laptop days before the election, while refraining from making the IC investigation into Trump's links to the Russians public before the election, when the Obama administration was actually engaged in a coordinated plot to sabotage Trump's campaign? Is that the explanation you're looking for?
     
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  6. basso

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    for those of you who think this is meant to be some sort of October Surprise, Trump doesn't control this investigation, neither the timing nor the content. Neither does Barr. hence the thread title, Who is John Durham? when he's ready, we'll find out.

    as for the crime, i think the outline is fairly obvious, but the more obtuse, while much of what is in the news is interconnected, and may be a part of the investigation, they are relevant only to the extent that they provide some backstory:

    1. Yes, Russia tried to sew chaos in the 2016 Election
    2. They had no clear favorite, their sole goal was division and chaos (mission accomplished)
    3. Hillary Clinton was their unwitting dupe (bathroom server)
    4. Trump and his associates had numerous contacts with various russian officials
    5. NTTAWWT, but Hillary decided to use Trump's history to make sure he could not win (Steele).
    6. Comey's July exoneration of HRC was ill-advised (but not directly material to our story)
    7. Comey's October surprise was similarly ill-advised (but also not directly material)
    8. Obama was not aware of what Comey would say in either instance
    Comey's motives in July-October remain unclear, but he has much to answer for
    9. No one honestly believed Trump would win (including Trump)
    10. when he did, people began scrambling.
    11. a long term consequence of the Obama administration was the politicization of DOJ, including the FBI (and Treasury, but that's another scandal).
    12. At some point post Election, pre-inauguration, Ideologues in the FBI, including its most senior members, conspired with elements in the intelligence community, including its most senior members, to kneecap the incoming administration by entrapping its National Security Advisor.
    13. Comey, Brennan, Strzok, Page, MacCabe, (maybe Weissman), Lynch, all have some exposure. One of them is talking.
    14. Worse than Watergate? You bet:

    What did the President (and the VP) know, and when did he know it?
     
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  7. gifford1967

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    Is McMaster one the tentacles of the Octopus?

    Trump’s ex-national security adviser says president is ‘aiding and abetting’ Putin
    H.R. McMaster’s warning represents perhaps his harshest public criticism of the president since the retired general was ousted from the White House in 2018.

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    Former national security adviser H.R. McMaster. | Evan Vucci/AP Photo

    By QUINT FORGEY

    10/01/2020 11:44 AM EDT

    Former national security adviser H.R. McMaster said Thursday that President Donald Trump is “aiding and abetting” Russian President Vladimir Putin’s efforts to sow doubt about the American electoral system.

    The stern warning from McMaster, who Trump handpicked to lead the White House National Security Council in 2017, came in an interview on MSNBC, after he was asked whether he agreed that the president posed the greatest threat to U.S. election integrity.

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    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/01/former-national-security-adviser-trump-putin-424458
     
  8. B@ffled

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    But all of this is perfectly fine if you're a Dem. Say...didn't Devin Nunes put out a report back in 2018 that Schiff refused to look into? Hmmm... Didn't the Bush/Cheney yellowcake story rub your asses the wrong way? It did mine. I'm not OK with the protectors of our democracy lying to the American public. This is the same group operating via the democratic party this time.

    But whatever... If you can't look at a fact and decide if it's right or wrong, that's yall's problem. The facts are being declassified. You can't spin it. You can only decide for yourself if you are going to ignore it or acknowledge it. We still have Uranium One, the Clinton Foundation, Haiti and Epstein Island coming up. Should be fun. Looking forward to 4 more years of it.
     
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    Suspect barr will pressure this report to be completed in time to try to influence the election... if not, we have already seen barr push out an early and unreliable "summary" in advance of the complete report...

     
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    Poe's law is a b****. Causes a lot of frustration in online debates.
    Can you sincerely just come out and say if you are playing a shtick that mimics a over the top caricature of a right winger or are you a sincere poster?
     
  12. basso

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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/an-american-coup-attempt-11602181261?mod=hp_opin_pos_1

    "The U.S. is in a constitutional crisis. It began on the day of President Trump’s election, when unelected bureaucrats mobilized against his presidency. This is a crisis in the executive branch, perpetrated by subordinate officials who don’t see themselves as answerable to the president. They have effectively established a fourth branch of government—a permanent, unaccountable bureaucracy."
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    The president isn't the king of the fbi. If the DOJ and FBI are investigating the president, the president has no right to order those people. They are independent from the chain of command of the President.

    Stop disering a fascist country. I urge you because it seems like you are one of the few sincere posters who still worships Trump.

    And
     
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    I sincerely want people to wake up and start questioning what they’ve been sold as the truth by the media and the Dem. establishment for the last 12 years. The standard response has been “that’s debunked”. It hasn’t. If it has find the proof before you take that as an answer.
    Whatever that makes me in your book, so be it. If you’re unsure, put me down as a skeptic.
     
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    one lawyer who made a edit on the margins of a document 11 months after the investigation started. If that is what u guys are hanging your hat on as a successfil investigation, that's really pathetic.

    Do you feel comfortable with Trump using the DOJ and the US attorney general as his own personal prosecutor?
     
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  16. fchowd0311

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    Also here's a hypothetical. Imagine this current administration with Trump and Barr. Now imagine if Biden had plethora of contacts from him and his campaign staff from Iran similar to Trump's connections to Russia along with many members of his campaign staff. Now ask yourself if Trump would provide the same courtesy that Obama provided of not trying to make this have the appearance of a partisan witch hunt by not announcing an active investigation weeks to days before election day.

    If the goal was to ruin Trump's chances at the presidency why did the Obama administration not make the investigation publicly known before election day? Ask yourself sincerely if Trump would have that same restraint in him.
     
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  17. basso

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    please highlight any statement that demonstrates "Trump Worship." I loathe Obama, I don't worship Trump.
     
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  19. fchowd0311

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    Can't wait.
     
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    You worship Trump. You have the same mental issues that make Trump supporters into cultists. Many of them are cultists from their hatred of Obama.

    There is no rational reason why you should hate Obama the amount you do. You are a unhinged lunatic who I wouldn't be surprised if you actively joined one of these terrorist militia groups.

    I hope you have loved ones who aren't brainwashed like you who can talk some sense into you. You seriously need help.
     

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