Newsflash. If you don’t suck hardens dick or you call out dribble dribble step back 3s to no avail, you’re a hater. Sorry some of us have been rooting for this team and joined this site way before harden joined. We root for the rockets not one specific player. When he’s played well he’s gotten props. Right now he’s a spoiled diva that ****ed to his team with the WB trade. He can’t play with people that challenge him, he folds just like he does on the court. It’s harsh but it’s true, if you want to remain in Denial that’s on you
Newsflash. Dumbass Harden haters think they know what they’re talking about, and if u don’t agree, you’re a “stan.” keep on sucking off the latest guy who just so happened to have a good playoff game...here’s some knee pads “Harden gets doubled so much because he doesn’t run around. It has nothing to do with his dominance and the talent surrounding him. Curry doesn’t get doubled because he runs around. Curry not getting doubled constantly also has nothing to do with the talent surrounding him. U want to know why? Because he played with Bogut and Draymond, and they didn’t double.” these are the best takes these people have to offer, and then they wonder why they stay getting laughed at
fchowd is the same dude who once said there’s not as big of a difference as the “homers” would have u believe between Harden and Kyle Lowry... now he wants u to believe that he’s some authority on Harden and on basketball... he wants u to believe he has no agenda...he wants u to believe he’s right, and the stans and homers are just clueless people need to just admit their true intentions and stop the games...if u have an agenda, just admit it
This might be the stupidest Harden post you have ever had. Has harden ever played with players the caliber of Davis or Durant. The difference between Harden and other superstars is that other superstars have played with other all NBA players. It's amazing that you continue to post stupid **** like this. Have you no shame?
So why is he only averaging 20 ppg in this playoffs and not even that in his career? What happened to him last year in playoffs?
Are we serious? Candidate for dumbest thread I’ve ever read.The complete idiocy of some clutchfans posters never ceases to amaze me.
Lebron and Curry can't even make the playoffs in the west without their superstar crutches. Hell, Curry can't make it past 4 games into the season.
The Harden Bashing needs to stop. We just need a real basketball mind to run operations here and get rid of the Westbrick!
Gotta revisit this thread after the next game. I’d put money in it that the Lakers make adjustments to guard Butler with double teams.
We'll see after Butler likely gets doubled (and occasionally tripled even perhaps), and that will loom large as to the answer (albeit still only being a single game sample size). The truth is there is a bit if truth to both sides of the argument; there are times that Harden has seemingly lacked killer instinct at moments where it would seem to matter most, but on the other hand, virtually no player gets the defensive attention Harden is receiving lately, nor has any nba star been able to achieve any further than Harden has with similar levels of lacking supporting cast help during the playoffs. The former point does have some merit, and granted I am solidly biased in the pro-Harden camp, however, I feel Harden has also had plenty of instances of sheer dominance (rs & playoffs) that proves is heart is indeed there, plus it is clearly a point that gets way too often overstated and exaggerated due to subjective negative biases people feel towards the man, not to mention the fact there are plenty of other stars that have similar nights whom don't get roasted or have their entire career's outlook based around their respective "dud" showings. As to the latter point, you cannot point to a single star on a championship winning team in the modern era whom had to overcome the level of lackluster play that our recent iterations of Rockets teams around Harden have provided. It just doesn't happen; a star's team will get bounced no matter how well they've played or not. The closest thing approaching the amount of help that the stars on the winning teams of the past 10+ years was when Chris Paul was healthy his first year; and what did we have then? We were up 3-2 on the reigning champ, (arguably greatest team of stars ever assembled) before CP went down due to injury. IMO, Harden has more than paid his dues, and I'll feel truly sad for the man if he never gets the supporting cast whom play well enough to get him over the championship hump, whether in Houston or elsewhere. On the other hand, this is a business & life is never fair; this exact situation has happened to many greats never to win one before too. Let's just hold out hope for the short term future and enjoy the man's talents while we still have them regardless if it ever really happens.
You have to consider the fact that small-ball strategy by MDA puts intense reliability on Harden to score and also facilitate for others. With no real C and PF, multiple terrible shooting night with a little bit of double-teaming on Harden is the only thing it took to take Rockets down year after year. So even with all starters playing, the system of MDA is to be blamed for the failure. There was no Plan B or adjustment under MDA and a non-existent mid-range game. Rockets were simply predictable. Also, Harden does not have a leadership mentality to take over games when most needed but I believe if the right coach is hired and if Rockets go back to basics of getting above-average positional players, Harden will thrive consistently in the playoffs by using all his skills rather than just iso.
Packing paint is how Rockets defended Bucks, and beat them. Why didn't Rockets do this vs. Lakers????
Because people that can make plays hate to play in system that don't give them ball. Is it really that hard to understand? Imagine you are good nba player that likes to play with the ball(you can make plays), would you go to a team where GM basically tells you 'so look, ok, you gonna stand in the corner and you only are going to see the ball if you rebound it yourself or our superstar is double teamed'. It's delusional to think players with that ability will come here that's why Harden is surrounded with stiff guys who can't put the ball on the floor and d-leaguers like House who can play great from time to time and are **** most of the time
Because the Lakers were hot from behind the arc? To overplay anywhere you have to give up something else, there's always a tradeoff. In the two games vs Toronto, the Lakers shot 28.6% behind the arc so that made it easy to continue to pack the paint. In LAL's 4 wins in the Rocket's series, they shot 40.3% from behind the arc. When a team is shooting it that well from 3 then packing the paint is difficult. The Lakers 3 point shooting opened up the floor for them.
another lebron myth that doesn't ever get corrected. LeBron did not beat the "championship Pistons." Those Pistons were champions 4 whole seasons prior and didn't even have ben wallace anymore. Yet, the narrative that Jordan beat an "old" Pistons team continues, despite the team being 30,31 years of age or under and defending b2b champions, with a game 7 finals loss that could have been 3 peat champions before the Bulls destroyed them .
Ok, so what players came to Houston and weren't allowed to make plays? Had to stand in the corner and wait for the ball? The two obvious players to look at are CP3 and Westbrook. CP3's final year in LA, he got 12.9 FGA and had a usage rate of 23.9. His first year in Houston, he got 13.8 FGA and his usage rate was 24.1. His 2nd year he got 12.4 FGA and had a usage rate of 22.0. This year in his All-star bounce-back season he got 12.7 FGA and had a usage rate of 22.8. His numbers in Houston are similar to his numbers in the year prior to and the year after leaving Houston. In fact, his numbers were very slightly higher in HOU than they were his last year with LAC. In Westbrook's final two seasons in OKC, he had 21.1 FGA with a 32.6 usage and 20.2 FGA with a usage of 30.1. This season in HOU, he had 22.5 FGA and a usage of 33. That usage rate was the 6th highest in the NBA this year. So, CP3 and WB don't meet the criteria that you described, so who are you referring to? Maybe Eric Gordon? Even while sharing the court with Harden and WB (number 2 and 6 in the league in usage) Gordon still had a usage rate of 23. Basically, Houston puts the ball in the hands of players who can create. Those guys are getting their touches. So who are they taking touches away from? It's the guys that are really spot up shooters. They are not having those type of guys handle the ball. Instead they have the guys the Hardens and WB create open looks for them. I believe the idea is to maximize what those players do well and to minimize the things that they don't. That's why a guy like PJ Tucker is getting almost twice as many shots per game than he did prior to coming to HOU.
Of course it is. The Heat were without two of their best players against a team with arguably two of the top three players in the league in the Finals.
