LOL slcrocket Looks like they've passed through the window of opportunity too...maybe they should demand to be traded to the Washington Geezers, er Wizards I mean. Better yet, maybe MJ should just bring back the whole '92 dream team and see how they fare... ------------------ Now saw off...there's nothing to see here. [This message has been edited by DieHard Rocket (edited June 13, 2001).]
Tacoma Park Legend: I think there's a big difference between a big man picked in the top 8 or so, and the rest of hte lottery... after that, they all seem to be mediocre, at best. On the other hand, you can still often find talented SF's at #13. Not so at #23... or at least, far fewer. I think it all boils to risk/reward. Pick a big man at #13, and what do you get? At best, a Brad Miller. Pick a SF at #13, and you can get a pretty darn good player. I'm not so enamored of the C/PF positions that I'd rather take a lesser player. ------------------ Lacking inspiration at the moment...
Are you already so convinced that Steve and Cat are not willing to do the "little" things? ------------------ CC.NET Sim League Web Page My Team (Sonics) Feeling claustrophobic, like the walls are closing in. Blood stains on my hands, and I don't know where I've been. I'm in trouble for the things I haven't got to yet. I'm chomping at the bit, and my palms are getting wet. Sweating Bullets Runnin', Ravin', Endin', Out.
I thought doing the little things will help us move up the corporate ladder, and we have to pick our battles? ------------------ Founding Father of the Refs Suck Club
Haven, my thoughts exactly. I should have specified on where in the lottery I was referring to. Any big man after the 7th or 8th pick is not going to bring greater defensive abilities(which is the only thing I want from the big man we draft) than a big man chosen at 18 or 23. I'm not too impressed with the big men in this draft aside from Kwame Brown. Curry doesn't impress me. Anyways, the Rockets will likely not be able to move up to be in a position to draft Brown therefore the only logical reason for them to move up would be to get a Joe Johnson, Rodney White, or Shane Battier. Also, I was talking specifically about the defensive abilities of a late first rounder compared to that of big men picked late in the lottery. IMO a Ken Johnson brings just as much to the table defensively as any big man projected in the lottery aside from the elite few, and this does not include Chandler. If we were talking about their offensive abilities, then no, a Ken Johnson wouldn't be in the same league as Curry or Brown. I haven't seen Diop at all, so I really don't know what to make of him. ------------------ "Modern bourgeois society with its relations of production, of exchange and property, a society that has conjured up such gigantic means of production and of exchange, is like the sorceror, who is no longer able to control the powers of the nether world whom he has called up by his spells." [This message has been edited by tacoma park legend (edited June 13, 2001).]
Wha...? ------------------ Rarely is the question asked: Guns kill squirrels than REDRUM to fools across the nation?
If Mo is begging to play SF (a useless position! I spit on SF! ptooey! ay, HeyP?) then he, too, thinks our chances of getting Webber are real. As far as all the "we can't sign Webber yet" comments, well, that's true, but the man did say he wanted to make up his mind by the draft. And look at where his interests lie around that time. (Of course, he might also be in Dallas the day before, but Webber + Nellie = No Way, My Brother.) It p!sses me off when people assume we can't get Webber. Looks like he has a definite interest in this organization. And he should. The Rockets are head of the class; yes, I'm a homer, but that happens to be the truth. He might need a canoe to tour the Compaq Center, but what the hell. Does everyone think he wouldn't leave the Kings high and dry? To hell with them. Stevie can point out what it's like to play the team you dumped on four times a year; he has that experience. Webber said he doesn't care about that anyway: the choice is his, it might not be the popular one, but he has to think about the team and where it's gonna be not just now but four years or so down the road. (I saw that in "Slam" or "Inside Stuff." I'm so embarassed; it's like reading the "People" magazine of hoops.) Perhaps we believe he's an East Coast guy? Maybe he is. But so are Cat, Steve, Walt, Mooch...and they love the home they've made with the Rockets. Have faith, people. Don't sell our team short. ------------------
Nikestrad: I wouldn't be so quick to eliminate Rodney White from that list. Maybe the real target, given the lack of yap directed towards him? The Cat: I'm sold on Collier ... but as a back-up for now, if you don't mind! I think I'd rather start him than Kelvin Cato, though. Oh yeah, and I still think this team would be worse off without Shandon Anderson. Someone recently said that we'd forget about Shandon if we get a SF who can score 15-20 per game. I can't disagree more. I'd hate to have Houston be a team like Boston - 3 stars, but nobody willing to do the little things, so always losing. ------------------ Lacking inspiration at the moment...
The talent differential between a small forward picked at 13 compared to 18, or 23 in this draft is far greater than the talent difference between big men picked at the same positions. A lottery small forward will get you an impact role player, whereas a late first round 3 will get you a spot role player. If the Rockets move up, it won't be for a big man. There's more risk of a big man being a bust than there is a small forward. My expectations for the big man we draft isn't high. I could care less if he has great offensive skills, so getting a Loren Woods type isn't that important IMO. The only thing I want the big man we draft to provide is rebounding, weakside shotblocking, and good outletting. That was one thing that was lacking last year, a consisten outletter. Kenny and Dream were our best at doing this, which is why I liked that combo on the floor. They open up our running game. That's why I want Ken Johnson for his defensive abilities. The "franchise" centers in this draft like Curry and Diop are not going to provide better defense than he will. ------------------ "Modern bourgeois society with its relations of production, of exchange and property, a society that has conjured up such gigantic means of production and of exchange, is like the sorceror, who is no longer able to control the powers of the nether world whom he has called up by his spells." [This message has been edited by tacoma park legend (edited June 13, 2001).]
I also think that the Rockets will get Haywood with the 13th pick if Rad or Joe Johnson are unavailable,but I wouldn't want to pick Alvin Jones at 13.Woods is a better player than Haywood,but he might be a better fit as a PF even after putting on extra weight. ------------------
Stevierebel.... Brendan Haywood can only bench 185? I know for a fact I had read that Tyson Chandler could only lift it twice. If Haywood is almost 100 pounds heavier and lifting the same weight, We're just as good having 'Los fill in at the five spot. ------------------
I think the "185 lbs" thing is misunderstood ... apparently a set workout for all the players was to see how many times they could bench-press 185 lbs. So I don't think anyone had an option to show they could bench-press more weight. ------------------
There's nothing to say we won't draft both Haywood and Woods. Although unlikely, would be an interesting draft to say the least. ------------------ humble, but hungry. [This message has been edited by PhiSlammaJamma (edited June 14, 2001).]
Yo. Someone here. Shandon does not score enough. Is that simple enough for ya? Elie could slash and still play D. Horry could score and play D. Do you see the connection here? I want a guy that can put up 15-20 a game more than 5 times a year. I will miss his D but like I said he will be soon forgotten. I cant stand to see an airball on a three point shot damnit! ------------------ Go Rockets!!! SS
I am not sold on Haywood. He only benches 185 and reminds me of Cato. We don't need two of those if we don't unload Cato now do we? If Cato is traded then I see the Rockets get a center in return. With the draft, I think the Rockets are going to select RAD or Woods with the 13th pick to secure the 3 or 5. ------------------ Stevierebel
I think I have a lead on "the 3 beautiful women who like German Chocolate Cake ice cream." Carroll. Rudy. Les. All are three not-uncommon female names. ------------------ Time is a great teacher-- only problem is it kills all its pupils.
