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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NJRocket, Apr 7, 2004.

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  1. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Wow. You are doing some sort of parody, right?

    A nation:
    * has geographic boundaries
    * has a government that sees to the needs of its citizens (or at least makes some sort of attempt to do so).
    * negotiates with other nations

    Let's see... Al Qaida...
    * nope, no geographic boundaries
    * they have leaders, but no citizens to really take care of. Nope. They have nothing to govern. Just a basic militaristic structure for implementing plans.
    * No, they don't negotiate with other nations (despite now completely debunked claims about meeting with an Iraqi official in Prague).

    No, pretty much doesn't look or walk like a duck. At all. This is obvious, yes?

    Al Qaida, if anything, should remind someone of an organized crime group. How do you fight organized crime? Invade random nations that have little or nothing to do with the organized crime? Uh, that would be no. You go precisely after the criminals and leave all bystanders alone.
     
  2. Rocket104

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    I can't tell if you're responding to the stupidity comment or the Al-Qaeda not a country bit.

    Juuuuust kidding - sorry, I couldn't help myself. :)
     
  3. Uncle_Tim

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    Actually, it isn't uncommon for them to hide in mosques.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    Actually it is. What they have done with somewhat more frequency is station tanks and artillery near mosques hoping that it will preven them from being destroyed via air raids and missle attacks.
     
  5. Uncle_Tim

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    Have you ever heard of the PLO, Hamas, or Hezbollah?
     
  6. ROXRAN

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    3 main groups:...The individuals still bestowed to Saddams' regime...The common thug, who is akin to mayhem, and terroristic deeds...and the fanatical muslim zealots intent on ill-goverance...

    All 3 needs to go,...preferably by "spooky"!...

    The rest of the majority of people in Iraq will move on...
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    I will admit I could be wrong about it just being one mosque. I heard a report that they believe it's several mosques that some militants are using.
     
  8. NJRocket

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    Not when the group is partially funded by governments of these rathole countries.
     
  9. Rocket104

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    Ku Klux Klan, Christian Identity, Irish Republican Army, Army of God, National Liberation Front of Tripura... all Christian, all claimed to be terrorist groups.

    Now, do I take these groups to be representative of all Christianity? Nope. I think these groups are using Christianity as a front to achieve some other idiotic goal that has nothing to do with the faith or its morals.

    NJRocket's statement that al-Qaeda is state-sponsored? Good point. Now please go after those countries so that I, as an American, feel safe. (Iraq and Saddam Hussein actually wanted little to do with al-Qaeda.. Saudi Arabia, on the other hand...)
     
  10. Sane

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    I don't think anyone shares your sentiment.

    I think many would rather see Iraqis dying than actually trying to investigate inside these mosques.

    These places aren't hideouts. What kind of pathetic military can't send one person into a mosque to look around and see what's going on? It's not like these mosques have complex tunnels and stuff. A mosque is one or two rooms inside one building, that's all.


    Absolutely disgusting.



    Just FYI NJRocket, for you and your FALSE information, Al Qaeda is a Sunni group. Most of the Iraqi population and all of the Iranian population are not Sunni but Shi3a, and they'd rather slit their own wrist than funding those people.

    Stop making things up that you don't know about.

    If you think that Iraq is still helping out anyone then the entire war was an absolute failure, because you failed to contain these terrorists, you failed to keep the death toll reasoneable, and you failed to find weapons of mass destruction.

    The only thing you succeeded at doing is making millions of dollars for all the money hungry oil companies that your government members are a part of.
     
  11. Sane

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    I have to say, I fail to see why DaDa gets to say "The Muslim religion is a joke" and doesn't get any crap for it.

    Do I get to do that if I get 10000 posts?
     
  12. Rocket104

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    There was a whole thread he started on that a while ago, remember? There were (what I think are) a lot of valid points to show him otherwise, but some people are unwilling to falter from their original viewpoints.

    It's not worthy of a response if DaDakota isn't going to listen or open his mind. :(

    This is the D&D section, so I don't think he'll be reprimanded or anything like that, if that's what you meant.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Look,

    I am not saying Muslim people are a joke.

    I just don't happen to believe that any MAN or WOMAN knows anymore about God's existance than anyone else.

    I just don't believe in Religion in general, and think the Muslim religion with all their innane rules for women etc, is particularly questionable.

    It seems it is more about power than worship, IMHO.

    Rocks104,

    I listen, and read, but if I don't agree what is the point. I mean is anyone really going to change your mind?

    Will you ever think Religion is a joke? No? Of course not, you have your beliefs and I have mine.

    And the truth is we are probably both wrong.

    DD
     
  14. DaDakota

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    Nah, but you do get the fickle finger of fate award.

    And you get let into the illuminati.

    :)

    Truthfully Sane, I think all religions are based around power and control, and very little about worship.

    I believe in God, just don't believe that any man made Text (The Bible, Torah, Quran) is really written or inspired by God, but rather written by man to conrtol the ignorant masses.

    DD
     
  15. Woofer

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    I would only disagree with DaDakota in that *all* religions are about equally weird.


    Back to the thread, at this rate, we'll need to imprison everyone in Fallujah. (Unless, as some posters say, the media is misrepresenting the facts on the ground. )

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...ideast_afp/iraq_us_fallujah_demo_040408103955

    Iraqi marchers break through US roadblocks in bid to relieve rebel bastion
    Thu Apr 8, 6:39 AM ET Add Mideast - AFP to My Yahoo!

    BAGHDAD (AFP) - Thousands of Iraqi sympathisers, both Sunni and Shiite Muslim, forced their way through US military roadblocks in a bid to bring aid from the capital to the besieged Sunni rebel bastion of Fallujah.
    Troops in armoured vehicles attempted to stop the convoy of cars and pedestrians from reaching the western town where US marines have met ferocious resistance in a two-day-old offensive against the insurgents.
    But the US contingents were overwhelmed as residents of villages west of the capital came to the convoy's assistance, hurling insults and stones at the beleaguered troops
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  16. Sishir Chang

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    Doesn't most of Al Qaeda's leadership and money come from Saudi Arabia?
     
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    I would like to point out that even including the 9/11 attacks Wahabbi Extremists over their history have killed more muslims than Christians and Jews combined.

    I would also like to point out that the vast majority of Mosques preach messages contrary to these types of attacks.
     
  18. Sane

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    DaDa,

    My problem is not with your beliefs, it's with your total disrespect for mine.
     
  19. F.D. Khan

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    Nuns cover up their bodies and dress just as women in Islam do. Is that ridiculous as well? Ultra Orthodox jews have violently protested western style dress in Israel and have in the past pelted feces at people not dressing in very traditional manner.


    I don't agree with either of the three cases whether it be Islam, Christianity or Judaism; but the issue of dress and modety is very strikingly similar in all three faiths.

    Why is the covered muslim woman oppressed, while the nun is seen as sacrificing for god?
     
  20. Jeff

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    This THREAD is a joke.

    Conservatives: Islam is crazy.
    Liberals: No, Christianity is crazy.
    Atheists: You are ALL crazy.

    Save me Jeebus.
     
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