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The Queen gets special hair treatment...Can others do the same?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ROXRAN, Sep 1, 2020.

  1. SuraGotMadHops

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    The fact you're bringing up economic stats from 2Q 2020 while the economy was shut down and holding that against the Prez is asinine as hell. The death count inflation was reported by the CDC itself. The hydrochloroquine treatment that he promoted works, CNN itself later came out and said it months later. It's difficult to implement a national strategy when the Dems from state and local governments undermine every damn thing you try to do. The statue defense only started when idiots started going after Douglass, Jefferson, and Lincoln monuments. Everybody has the right to disagree with anthem kneeling in this country, everybody, including the Pres. You think the President of the country is not going to defend his own country's anthem?? If people want to disagree further and peacefully protest - have at it, that's their right. But for those that use that disagreement as an excuse to loot, steal, and harm, that's their problem and blaming the violence on Trump is a stupid and immature response. Everybody is responsible for their own behavior. Pretty much everything on your list is exaggerated or just straight up not even accurate. People that think this way are a lost cause. If you think the Trump tax cuts did not help the middle class from the very first paycheck you are blind as a bat.
     
  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Ehhhh... i still plan to vote for Hunter Biden
     
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  3. London'sBurning

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    Ah you switched to a different poster to argue your points. Dobro rekt you bruh!
     
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    It reads exactly like the overwhelming number of excuses and whataboutism we constantly see here from trump supporters defending trump, which you have no doubt noticed and attacked relentlessly for it’s hypocrisy.
     
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    CDC did not report that, it said only 6% of people who dies did not have any other health issue.

    STOP LYING.

    CDC report found 94% of COVID-19 deaths included comorbid factors. Here’s what that means

    https://www.ksl.com/article/5001297...cluded-comorbid-factors-heres-what-that-means
     
  6. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    She shouldn't have done it. Lets not try to be like republicans and try to justify it.
     
  7. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    Excess dead people from last year is probably the best way to measure the covid impact. Its ~200k extra deaths.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/08/12/us/covid-deaths-us.html
     
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  8. IBTL

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    shoulda went to jared
     
  9. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    I'm going to need proof of your claims, links from sources, not tweets from quacks. I posted plenty of evidence to back up my claims, your turn. I look forward to a substantive response.

    Everyone is responsible for their own behavior including Trump and all the stupid lies and racist **** he says regularly.

    By the way, where are those tax returns anyway? Is he experiencing the longest audit in recorded history or is this just another example of a big fat lie? I think we ALL know the answer to that one.
     
  10. deb4rockets

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    What a crock! The Democrats were the ones trying to get their Republican governors to stop easing restrictions, to enforce lockdowns and ordinances, and to take the pandemic more seriously. Trump led the charge to reopen before, just like he is doing again. He is to blame for our pathetic and disturbing response to put economy first, and put the deaths blaming game on China. Trump is a sick man. He truly is. He is as crooked as they come, and a man who Isnt very bright. I doubt he could pass a college entrance exam.
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You have PDS - Pelosi Derangement Syndrome
     
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    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u...d-during-the-2008-financial-crisis-2019-06-19

    Trump's economy was fueled by consumer debt and low fed int erst rates forming a potential bubble. Quick. Spit me out the unemployment numbers and GDP growth 1.5 years before one of the greatest economic crashes in American history in 2008. Goes to show how useless these traditional economic metrics are in actually gauging health of the economy. Also under the Trump residency this happened for the first time in American history:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/americ...s-pay-a-lower-tax-rate-than-the-middle-class/

    That was due to Trump's tax cuts for the wealthy he bragged about incessantly. Another consequence for his tax cuts was sky rocketing the Federal deficit back to near 1 trillion dollars. In itself that wouldn't be the worst thing if the country was experiencing a recession as it is expected for the deficit to increase substantially during recessions as the government is generating less tax revenue and also are spending more on safety nets. This current administration managed to balloon the deficit during sustained GDP growth.
    Dunning-kruger effect in full bloom. There currently is no clinical trial that determines efficacy of the drug for COVID. Only general care physicians who believe in demon sperm make these claims of efficacy without having a clue what a Design of Experiment is or have any experience in general with clinical trials

    I'm not a clinical trial expert per say but engineers often use similar "Design of Experiment" methods as clinical trials expect we aren't as thorough as we use the taguchi model and make shortcuts with our orthogonal arrays and try to cut the amount of experiments required as much as possible. That's not typically allowed for clinical trials for drug efficacy as they have to do full factorial arrays that account for all confounding factors.
    The president of the United States is part of the executive branch of the federal government. So when the president uses his bully pulpit to threaten businesses such as NFL teams and calls athletes "sons of b****es" for merely expressing a political opinion it means that the president in principle is violating the first amendment as the figurehead of the federal government is bullying private citizens for expression of their beliefs. I expect a president to be above that BS and ignore it if he disagrees with the cause.
     
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    There's a tough balance to strike between protecting lives and also protecting livelihoods. Ask the 20 million people who lost their jobs on account of a virus that has an extremely low mortality rate. Why is it not correct to hold China responsible for all that has happened? The virus originated in Wuhan, and China acted very slowly, if at all, to stop international travel from leaving China. They are responsible.
     
  14. fchowd0311

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    Trump shares responsibility seeing as he has created a rabid fanbase of anti-maskers and anti-social distancers by turning masks into a "alpha males don't wear masks" shtick and labeling COVID initially as a hoax to get him out of office in the next election. He created the nuthouse conspiracy but jobs who harass store employees for enforcing mask regulations in their stores.
     
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  15. SuraGotMadHops

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    I see where you are coming from but I just can't agree with the idea that Trump created anti-maskers and anti-social distancers. Everyone is responsible for their own behavior. There are conservatives all over the place wearing masks and respecting CDC guidelines. Are there far-right idiots? Of course there are, but you cant blame Trump for far-right extremists the same way you cant blame Biden for far-left looters and arsonists that are doing so in the name of BLM.

    I don't think Trump considered the virus to be fake, he acknowledged early on that is very real, but he tried to prevent the massive overblowing and politicizing by the left regarding this virus. The continuous fear-mongering over Covid-19 is only interrupted by the social justice outrage of the week, only to go back once it cools off. It's been four straight years of kicking and screaming from liberal whiners. Enough is enough.
     
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    you dont think? you sure about that? LOL
    trump called it a hoax ..at a rally no less

    cmon man
     
  17. deb4rockets

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    Other countries who didn't rush back to open so soon seemed to have the right idea. Now we are in more of a mess than ever, and rushing back again, while our cases are so high will cripple our economy even more, and kill many more thousands while doing it. They gave billions to the rich hospitals and corporations in bailout funds, while so many small companies went out of business. Disgusting priorities.

    What about the hundreds of thousands who lived, but now have hospital bills they can't afford to pay? They don't have that problem in countries who provide free healthcare.

    It originated in China, yes. It exploded under Trump's negligence. Might as well call it the Trump virus. Heck, even when he finally started banning trips from Europe he only did so with foreign Nationals.

    I guess he thought travelling people from the USA were invincible. Stupid. He is really dumb. He and his no mask stance, and everything else he does. Now he yells about starting football and pushing for schools to open, as if that won't make things worse. He's an idiot, and so are a bunch of his followers. If they follow him for Christian reasons, calling him the chosen one, I'd wonder what church they follow. The MAGA cult?
     
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    Wow, what a strange way to put it. It amazes me how his followers are still trying to blame Trump's chaos on the left. He is the damn President, and his toy soldiers running the Senate have done all they can to knock down any reasonable requests.

    Arm the people, let them pack and carry. Blah blah blah. Don't let Texans absentee vote, even if they are vulnerable to becoming extremely ill or dying by catching the virus in a mask optional polling station. Why on earth would a mask mandate not be enforced in an indoor polling station? Why on earth did Abbott continue easing restrictions before meeting benchmarks?

    Trump praised these guys. Why on earth was there so much of a push by Republicans to hold their rally in Houston when cases were surging? Why to this day are no maskers allowed at Trump's fundraisers and rallies? Ugh, don't tell me the GOP isn't a bunch of greedy people who give don't give a damn about the pandemic.
     
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    trump 100 percent created anti maskers and anti social distances. He is the god damn president with zealot followers and he knows it. He went hard anti mask, poo pooed social distance, wanted to re open for a miraculous Easter, completely hammered All dem governors who refused to open prematurely - before what was advised by his own White House task force governance. It is utterly ridiculous to dispute that Trump led the anti mask, nit distancing, anti science charge. Look at the damn RNC from a week ago - no masks, no distance, no science. Support trump all you want, but do not attempt to say stupid things here. You will get called out for it.

    Biden has never advocated for looting, arson, or whatever inference you would like to draw. The facts are Trump directly flouted masks, distancing and science. And trump supporters are attempting yet another idiotic false equivalence.

    and the statement that he considered covid very real is completely belied by his words and actions. Do we need to hash that through again, because it would not be hard.
     
  20. DonnyMost

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    If I have to choose between a pilot who deliberately steers the plane into the goddamned mountain vs. a pilot who steals a sandwich from the snack cart I'll take option 2 every time.

    What a joke of a thread.
     

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