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Kenosha police shoots black man multiple times in his back in front of his children, declares curfew

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Aug 23, 2020.

  1. T_Man

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    Fixed it for you...

    Kinda like "it's better to ask for forgiveness, than to ask for permission."

    T_Man
     
  2. Nook

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    It is complicated. Part of the issue in America is by culture everything is recorded and made available.

    A large part of the problem is that officers are scared of suspects having firearms and being shot.

    Also in the USA, historically in the white community police officers and military are treated with a level of respect that borders on absurdity.

    Also, a lot of the racism in the USA is not through laws, ordinances or even overt racism, it is biases that exist based on history...... the same issue exists with medical treatment for black people.

    Having said that, I have seen worse racism in the overwhelming majority of the world.... it is really bad in Europe, it is similar in Canada in my experience to the USA..... it is horrendous in China and the Middle East.

    The USA has a way of dealing with everything publicly and with half the country arguing with the other half.
     
  3. Commodore

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    heh, someone doesn't want Wisconsin to go Red again in November

     
  4. jiggyfly

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    I did not know there where kids in the car, WTF that's another reason he never should have been let into the car.

    So the well being of the kids was an afterthought? Jesus Christ who do we let be LEO's in this day and age.
     
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  5. Nook

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    Yes, the man shot had his three kids in the vehicle.

    They saw their father shot and possibly killed like a foot from them..... the police did not give a **** about anyone but themselves at the scene.

    You pick...... they are poorly trained, they froze and didn't know what to do.... or they were not going to physically have an altercation with the man and decided to shoot at him 7 times.

    Here is what the man living across the street said:

    The man, who lives across the street from Blake on the 2800 block of 40th St., said when he went to the store about 15 minutes before the shooting, Blake was barbecuing with his kids. When the neighbor returned shortly after 5 p.m., Blake was trying to break up a fight. Seven or eight police officers arrived. They wanted to talk with Blake, but he wasn't interested and started putting his kids in the car to leave, the neighbor said.

    Now..... I can understand shooting someone pulling a gun at you or even running directly at you at a high rate of speed with a knife. However, have you heard a single report of there being a gun in the vehicle? I have not, and you sure as hell better believe that had there been a gun or knife, the KPD would be letting everyone know.

    The man should have just cooperated, but he did not deserve to be shot at 7 times, his children did not deserve to see him shot.
     
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  6. Nook

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    I think there are a few things going on here.

    First I do think there is some truth to them not wanting Wisconsin to go red, especially with the RNC going on.

    Second is that Wisconsin is a very unique state. It is a very socially conservative state in some ways. I spend a lot of time there (it is a very underrated place) but I don't think the people in Wisconsin would tolerate looting or rioting like in other parts of the country. Also, race relations in Wisconsin are not good and never really have been........ for all the talk of racism and racial attitudes in the South, the level of deep seated racism against black people in large parts of the Midwest is as bad, if not worse. Most of the social progressiveness that is discussed involved labor union and the political machines, and that often did not include black people.
     
  7. Supermac34

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    Or tried to tackle him and gotten shot in the head.
     
  8. jiggyfly

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    Cooperate with what was he being detained?

    Where the cops there when he put his kids in the vehicle?

    Why was it ok to put his kids in the vehicle but now he was a danger?

    This is an all around cluster**** and him complying is far down the list of wrongs here IMO.
     
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    The fact that a career criminal with a history of assaulting police, that didn't comply, and was reaching into his car for something got shot by police...and you blame the police...shows you how brainwashed some people in the nation really are.
     
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    The fact that because this person had a history means that the police can't be at fault for shooting him shows how brainwashed some people in this nation really are.
     
  11. Nook

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    No...... sorry, but there were 2-3 officers on the scene and they let this man walk away, did not stop him and let him get into a vehicle with 3 children and decided to shot him multiple times in the back, including firing at least 7 rounds. That is shitty police work. They had ample time to take him down prior to him opening the door to the car.... instead they shot unloaded on him, in front of his children. It never should have gotten to the point that he opened the door.

    Yeah, I blame the police officers for how this encounter happened. If they want to arrest the man for resisting arrest, I have no problem with that... but the police royally screwed up and neither of them should have a job, and the man that shot him should face charges.
     
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    I don't know if he was being detained.

    I agree with you that him not complying is way down the list, I mentioned it because it was one of literally a dozen problems.

    The officers need to be fired and at least one charged.
     
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    This is the question too.... did they not notice him put them in the car? Did the situation only escalate after the kids were in the car? Were the officers not aware they were in the car? Was the car running?
     
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    I was going to say, I'm speechless and appalled.
     
  15. jiggyfly

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    Yeah the more I hear the more ****ed up it is.

    It just makes no sense for them to allow him to walk around the vehicle and get into the car in the 1st place all while guns are drawn.

    If they felt that threatened he should have been shot before he opened the door.
     
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    I really really really wish the police had done something other than shoot the man. But, come on people. Please do as the police ask when they have their weapons drawn. Let’s not make the police make a decision that can end a life.

    I think police departments have tremendous room for improvement. Some officers are just bad and corrupt. I’m just saying we need to do our part to help prevent bad outcomes.
     
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  17. Reeko

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    wow...that looks very bad

    police officers ain’t sh*t
     
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    Horrible. I hope he survives.
     
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    Tragic footage. I'm not sure wtf happened when the man didn't feel like complying. Anyone with half an ounce of empathy knows he shouldn't have been shot or swiss cheesed.

    I'm not sure how police will get "better people" when everyone hates their asses and wants to neuter them right now.

    Real talk, social workers won't solve this "problem" if you have people flat out refusing to comply or worse violently resist.

    Which is why some states in that "Democrat firewall" flipped.

    I don't blame them for flipping, though hopefully this "exodus" from overpriced Pacific blue states will temper their deeply entrenched racism and bring in talent for more corporate investment...
     
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  20. FranchiseBlade

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    Shooting him would be bad enough but doing it while his kids are in the car!?
     
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