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How the Rockets can counter Lu Dort's defense. In-depth film study

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  1. D-rock

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    And this **** right here has to stop.

    EGo cannot be taking more shots than James Harden.

    Never again.

     
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    Keep shooting those 3's.

    Except EGo. No 3's for EGo.

     
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    Yeah he only played like 10(?) Minutes which has me worried that he entered the dog house. He's been part of our offensive success.
     
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    Would be nice if Harden could run fast enough to do an elevator screen.

    Is there a 3pt post up play? LoL
     
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    Wen Lu Dort was on Harden 1v1, he did shut him down. Harden hasn’t been able to score on him, nor can he penetrate and kick out to a shooter - except a handful of possessions out of the post.

    But he can get buckets on everyone else on the team and if you read the blog post it’s 2k+ words with film on how to get him switched on to somebody else to attack. As I wrote, a great defender can’t make a great defense by himself. It’s not like offense where one great playmaker can make you a great offense. Almost all of Hadens’s points and assists came from attacking other defenders. Which is why he needs to be able to do it more.
     
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    The 1-5 pick n roll with Jeff Green is really their only option, but it’s a good one. Nobody else can be a roll man. We will continue to see a lot of the inverted 1-5 with Green as the ball handler but even just the traditional pnr they should run more. It the only time all game they could get Harden downhill. And when he does that not only is he a threat for the layup or lob to Green, it forces the defense to rotate and contest at the rim - creating foul opportunities and open corner 3s. The Rockets aren’t getting as much of those rn.
     
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    The conclusion would be the same but it’s not right to think of points per shot. Points per possession is what’s most relevant. Those Harden FTs are coming on “shots”... just not counted as shots when fouled.

    but like I said conclusion will be the same.

    EG needs to get his head out of his ass.
     
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    yeah I think Harden could be an excellent post-up guard if he spent time practicing it. he definitely has the body type

    it's just he hasn't needed that in his game the past several years
     
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    I just updated the article to include this but Houston had a corner 3-point shot frequency rate of 26% in game 1. That dropped to just 9% in game 3. Dort is stopping Harden’s drive and kick game.

    The inverted 1-5 pick n roll with Green as the ballhandler has been great. But we also need to see more tradition pnr with Green as the roll man to get Harden downhill and collapsing the defense
     
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    Well done Foggy. I agree with you on your points, except I would say that Leonard and Paul give Harden more problems than Dort (although Dort does an excellent job).
     
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    EG killed us in Game 3...just a black hole that decided he was going to shoot it or take it to the hole no matter what. 18 points on 24 shots, led the team with 5 turnovers and had a team worst -29 +/- (next closest was Covington at -16).

    His non-passing also didn't allow McLemore (0-2) or Covington (1-2) to get many shots.
     
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    Huh? No it doesn't.

    James Harden has had entire defenses changed just to slow him down. There have only been 2-3 players in history that have had that happen. FWIW the Bulls also had to make adjustments for Jordan when they played the Pistons and a couple other teams 30 years ago. Olajuwon had trouble against the Sonics.

    James Harden shot poorly from 3 and missed more free throws than usual and he still almost scored 40 points with 1 turnover and 8 assists...... not sure what you really want.

    So far in the playoffs this season against the Thunder he is averaging: 32 points on 21 shots..... 8 assists.... 7 rebounds.... 1.5 steals .... 1 turnover a game...... he has a TS of over 60...... an ORtg of 127 and a Drtg of 105 and an insane WS/48 of .317.

    Dort is making life hard for Harden, and he is who I would want guarding Harden if I were the Thunder.... but remember, Harden is still playing at an all world level right now, and that is without Westbrook.
     
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    Is Tea and Rockets supposed to be a play off Tea and Crumpets? haha
     
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    Back to the stats, keep the turnovers under 10 and if EGO and ROCO can just shoot a respectable percent from 3 we win!
    This team can actually win games if Harden is having a tough night when BMc, Ego, Roco and PJ are shooting it well.
    No Adams or Schroder tonight so if we run and gun all game hopefully we can wear CP3 out and come up with the W.
     
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    ESPN has been giving bad injury reports every game, they said Adams was out last game too. Dunno what's up with them. There's no indication they aren't playing.
     
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    Harden is the only player who can average 32-7-8 on 45% shooting and were over here figuring out how to free him from Lou Dort.
     
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    Because he did all that when he WASN'T guarded by Dort. Harden is 3 of 21 from the field when Dort is defending him per NBA tracking. So, seeing as how he is still getting all those numbers when other players are defending, seems like a wise strategy to try to find ways to get Dort off him, no?
     
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    Blogger, Nathan Fogg is British.
     
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    Yah, I got that. I saw his first post. I picked up on the tea part being British reference but didn't think about Rockets and Crumpets sounding/looking similar.
     
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