[OFFICIAL] Democratic National Convention 2020 thread

I didn't see it live but read it in the Guardian.
Obama's speech left me with a lot of questions.
Seemed to me to be nothing more than slinging a lot of mud hoping enough will stick.

 

LOL

You can start here...
Trump Administration Civil and Human Rights Rollbacks

let me know when you want more...

 

Maybe it varies person to person, but a lot of people in my sector and definitely my state have been very negatively impacted:
* tax bill hurts take-home income for those in high-tax states, implementing a rare sort of double taxation of parts of their income.
* I think dismantling and/or neglecting scientific bodies, and putting non-scientific people in charge of such parts of the executive branch, hurts my chosen field directly. And an anti-science stance, I believe, will negatively impact our quality of life down the line in terms of lifespan, wellspan.
* His anti-immigrant stance has significantly hurt a lot of universities and also certain tech companies.
* Dismantling and neglecting things like the CDC have obviously played some role in our world-worst (cases and deaths, last I checked) response to the pandemic. The pandemic's economic consequences have been severe as a result. This has resulted in a significant loss of household income for us in my home, though we're still both employed at least.
* I could go on about the pandemic b/c know a middle-aged person who is now dead, etc. But you may say Trump had nothing to do with America's terrible response, so we can agree to disagree. I think it would have been bad here, and have said so, with anyone as president, but definitely wouldn't have been this bad.

I am sincerely glad if your life has been positively affected. Just isn't true for everyone. I feel relatively lucky. Lots of people (esp. in TX) have lost health insurance, jobs, loved ones (to disease or deportation), and so on. Cheers.

 

My guess is you may or may not agree with some of these...who needs clean air & water?

The Trump Administration Is Reversing 100 Environmental Rules.
Here’s the Full List.

After three years in office, the Trump administration has dismantled most of the major climate and environmental policies the president promised to undo.

Calling the rules unnecessary and burdensome to the fossil fuel industry and other businesses, his administration has weakened Obama-era limits on planet-warming carbon dioxide emissions from power plants and from cars and trucks, and rolled back many more rules governing clean air, water and toxic chemicals. Several major reversals have been finalized in recent months as the country has struggled to contain the spread of the new coronavirus.

[more at the link]

 

Here, knock yourself out...

Tracking deregulation in the Trump era

 

This administration should have you with a lot more questions than some speech by an ex-President. There's zero need for mud slinging here, just presenting the facts is enough to stick.

 

Can't help what states do .... but Trump CUT taxes on literally everyone.

You think that's going to get better under a Dem House / Senate / POTUS ? LOL they have said unequivocally they will raise taxes.

Wont argue this .... too broad.

Universities and tech companies aren't voters .... voters who have to compete with immigrants for employ. Score one for the American worker.

This pandemic was going to be bad no matter who was / is in charge simply due to the nature of the virus and its transmission.

But lets talk about the early days of this when Trump was issuing travel bans while Pelosi , De Blasio and Co were telling us go to bars and movie theatres and throwing parades .... "ill be there"! Or Cuomo sending Covid positive individuals into the henhouse ... err old folks home where the most vulnerable were and many died as a result of.
Maybe Trump should have given those travel bans a broader scope and more teeth .... but the fact is , the cat was outa the bag.

Covid was a real curveball - I don't think anything Trump or any other government bureaucrat did or does is / was going to alter the course of it.
The only thing that matters is the actions of the individual - you can choose to stay away from people and be safe or not.


Why do we have more cases ? We have more people than the next 7 countries combined. We also do more testing than any other country.
Here's some interesting data on the numbers.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/positive-rate-daily-smoothed?tab=table&time=2020-03-17..latest

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Funny , India only has 2,904,329 cases and 54,975 deaths attributed to Covid - Do you buy that when they have 1.3 billion people ?! A large percentage of those living in poverty ?!

It's not going away and we're not getting back to pre-pandemic normals without a working vaccine. One case is all it took to start this worldwide pandemic.

Can't say my life hasn't been affected - I don't get out much , my kids are stuck with online school and a few other inconveniences but our income hasn't taken a hit , I feel lucky too ...

Wonder why you put deportation in there .... illegals should be deported (that's not to say its realistic to do so years later after they have kids that are American citizens).

 

No one but Trump cares about total tests done. Our totals are so high because we are big country and our handling of pandemic is so bad that there are tons of people who are presenting symptoms and are afraid that they have Covid - it doesn't have to do with access to testing being better than elsewhere.

The important numbers, are those that account for total population and we suck in that regard when compared to similarly populated (density wise) 1st world countries like Germany and France. We suck by orders of magnitude. Well, our deaths/million are not much worse than France but I would credit that to total number of ICUs/capita and quality of medical system than anything else.

Centralized response that our federal government is capable of would've helped tremendously but we have a president who knew that it is a losing battle for him and didn't want nothing to do with it - punted it to governors and Pence. Somehow, Fauci ended up being responsible for the debacle if we judge based fox news. Trump egged on his base to not wear masks and undermined CDC instead of leading the effort to save people's lives.


Funny how you credit the admin with the flight ban but then forget to mention that ever since then, they acted as if the pandemic was over for months.


PS. The tax breaks were puny if you compare them to the breaks companies and top 1% got. No wonder the market is up and 12 richest guys have a cool trillion between them and our national debt is too scary to check these days. I'm sure Dems could redistribute that a little better without effecting your pockets (unless you are top 1%).

PPS. A healthy amount of immigration causes innovation and protects our economy from stagnation. Currently, all the legal/good immigration is at a halt. Universities employ Americans, so

 

You see, that's my point.
I wanted to listen to Obama and what he presented was disappointing.
Personally, I think he blew a golden opportunity to grab some swing votes and all he ended up doing was preaching to the choir.
If he had have substantiated his wild claims it would have made a big difference.

 

What are the wild claims? You do see the irony in stating Obama makes unsubstantiated wild claims? I mean, seriously.

 

Don’t lose your **** Joe

 

That was a very good speech and better than I expected.

 

Trump couldn’t hold a candle to that speech ever.

 

I lied. I watched Biden's speech. That was very personal, like he was talking directly to each of us American. Powerful in it's own way and very appropriate for what this nation has gone through.

 

Solid Speech.

 

The number of 'swing voters' who moved away from Biden because of Obama's speech = 0.