I will say this again. Hong Kong is not some ideological battleground for me and the people of Hong Kong are not just some brave souls I cheer on TV as they go march out to fight the evil commies in the street. It’s easy to sit back on the other side of the World typing away about how evil and horrible the CCP is and that those guys in the streets shining lasers and throwing bricks are freedom fighters. And the LE in helmets and shields firing rubber bullets and tear gas are just faceless drones of an authoritarian state. The truth is as always far more complicated. I believe in the cause of HK self determination. I believe in the Basic Law and that it should be upheld to the fullest. I also worry a lot about what happens in Hong Kong. Hong Kong is a beautiful and unique place. I don’t want to see it burn. I don’t want to see it suffer especially since members of my family will be suffering. Many of you talk about how bad it is in Portland and Minneapolis. How awful these hooligans are dressed in black. There were hooligans dressed in black too in HK but those you celebrate even though they did awful things. A 70 year old man was set on fire by pro-HK protesters when he berated them. Another elderly man was hit by a brick. Businesses of pro-PRC people were vandalized. As ugly as things are in Portland they were just as ugly in Hong Kong. That doesn’t mean the struggle is unimportant and just spoiled kids out looking for trouble. The struggle in Hong Kong obviously wasn’t about Black Lives Matter but it was about justice it was about understanding the role of national government versus the role of local government. If people can’t see how that relates to what is happening in Portland then you truly are blinded by ideology. If you can say that a protester being shot with a rubber bullet and beaten by a baton is a victim in Hong Kong while a protester being shot with a rubber bullet and beaten in Portland got what they deserved just shows it’s not about people. It’s about what political side you stand on and these people are just pawns.
HK: reporter was detained and beaten up by the mob. HK: man was burned by the mob. HK: the disgusting show of the traitors -----------STILL no army or secret force involved after 6 months of burning, killing and ****ing HK. Portland? you do not even need to go 1/10 of the violence HK rioters did, you are met with MAGA army and bullets in week one. Democracy?
I see that the D&D is turning away from the One Direction fans who make these generic threads and doesn't make people actually think
If you want to talk about secrets. A few years go 5 booksellers in HK who had sold and published books critical of the CCP mysteriously disappeared and suddenly ended up in custody in the PRC. According to the PRC they went there on "vacation".. Anyway you and other posters can commiserate about those "traitors" out in the streets. You can talk about the "imperialists" on Nathan Road and they can talk about the "Communists" out in Portland..
dude, this poster is a China troll he only pops up for China trolling posts. He's exactly like the thedopefiend account. A bunch of sleeper accounts that were active again since the Yao era when Morey dropped a tweet. You are basically talking to a bot or someone who's getting paid to troll so they can feed their kids. @Clutch @dc rock @Reeko
You blame "the mob" for this? Are we in another "human blob" racist mentality? "The HK blob is guilty! The Portland blob is scaring me!" Who were the individuals in "the mob" in Hong Kong, Dude? You don't know what you are talking about, do you.
You are talking to a troll account dude It’s obvious Look at the join date and see the sudden spike in posts after the Morey tweet Also look at the name , obviously created by a random name generator Who names themselves after the WNBA and never talks about women’s basketball His other account that got banned , thedopefiend never talked about Eric B and Rakim @Reeko
That PRC reporter in wrist ties was a particularly dubious incident, which could easily have been staged. Then you've got "unmarked" goons running around beating people. No one knows who they are or why they are there.
It's weird ultra liberals are using Portland and CHAZ like areas as an example for anti-police sentiment when these are places where things went to chaos, shootings, stabbings, deaths, drugs, unhygienic food and sex rampant ... while covid was still around .... as soon as the police left them to it and they established their own little "autonomous zone". All they do is prove we need more police rule and the police are extremely fair 99.9% of the time.
Yeah, just like I exclude the 6 guys at a KKK March, just like I exclude religiou sfundamnetalists , etc. Their stupidity has already drawn the line and I just point it out. We have to hold any and all adults accountable.
"Hold them accountable," huh? Are you talking about convicted criminals, or just some groups of Americans? I guess you'll understand if they exclude you at the same time that you exclude them. . . .
A lot of those goons in HK were identified as pro-PRC people from neighborhoods near the border. It was also reported that some of these people had ties to organized crime.
It is fascinating how people justify violence when it's against their number one enemy (the CCP), but when it's against Trump and his authoritarian tendencies, all of a sudden they compare the protestors not to the HK protestors but rather the CCP! Violence is ok if they agree with the cause. But if it's not, than the perpetrators are evil and an iron fist should come down hard on them.
