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[NEWSWEEK] Cuomo Wants to Keep Columbus Statue in NYC, 'Represents' Italian-American Legacy in U.S.

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  1. Os Trigonum

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    America's coronavirus sweetheart is sadly out of step with the cultural zeitgeist on this one I fear.

    https://www.newsweek.com/new-york-g...tatue-nyc-represents-italian-american-1510313

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    New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said during a press conference on Thursday that he'd like a statue of Italian explorer Christopher Columbus to remain in place to honor the contributions of Italian Americans to U.S. history.

    "I understand that the dialogue has been going on for a number of years," Cuomo said. "The Christopher Columbus statue, in some ways represents the Italian-American legacy in this country and the Italian-American contribution in this country."

    One of the statues dedicated to Columbus is a 76-foot-tall monument in the center of Columbus Circle in Manhattan, while the other is located at the south end of the Mall in Central Park.

    Representatives from Cuomo's office told Newsweek they were not sure if the governor was referring to the Central Park or the Columbus Circle statue.

    Columbus, who has long been credited with discovering the Americas during the 15th century, has become viewed less favorably in America's history due to the genocide and enslavement of indigenous tribes.

    Although Columbus's acts are now viewed as a deplorable part of American history, Cuomo said that the statue does not represent those deeds, but "has come to represent and signify the Italian Americans' contribution to New York."
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    more at the link
     
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    Columbus fetishism is dumb.
     
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    I personally don't care that much whether they take down or leave Columbus. Columbus is an important historical figure but as I've said context is important. I think the way to do this is to find a way to also honor Native Americans. Personally I like the idea of renaming Columbus Day as Indigenous People's Day.
     
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    Looks like many places are heading that way:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Peoples'_Day

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    There's a bunch of cities that have adopted it as well including Austin, Dallas, Corpus, and Bexar County (San Antonio)
     
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    Replace it with this...
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    Important for his acts of brutality and genocide against indigenous peoples. Truly a despicable excuse for a human:

    https://rapidcityjournal.com/lifest...n_76ebb2b8-f63d-11e3-a137-001a4bcf887a.html#2
     
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    We need to stop celebrating Columbus Day and take down his statues.
     
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    What a fredo.
     
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    Cuomo just can't get out of his own way. If you want to honor the contributions of Italian-Americans put up a statue of DiMaggio or Sinatra or John Basilone not this b*stard.
     
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    I don't know if I've ever seen or known a captain that wasn't a complete jackass -- Columbus was on another level of evil of course, but the journey to the new world was a really crazy adventure. I would think other explorers were pushing the limits of their ships seeing how far out in the Atlantic they could sail before having to turn back. I wonder if they had some sort of record for the attempts prior to Columbus... like who was the closest to discovering the new world prior to CC making it all the way?
     
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    **** you captain crunch is legit.
     
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    He can do this because First Nations don’t have much political power or city recognition.

    Maybe Cuomo can play this out by bringing back that Italian dude disguised as a Indian dude
     
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    Replace all Columbus statues with statues of Elizabeth Warren.to honor indigenous people. o_O
     
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    That would be the Vikings who were in North America long before Columbus.

    It's actually fascinating the theories about who from the old World got to the Americas first. In addition to the Vikings there is evidence that the Chinese from the T'ang dynasty almost 500 years before Columbus may have made it to the West coast. Also Jared Diamond and others have pointed out the sweet potato genetically descends from South America but it was wide spread in Polynesia before Columbus and the word for it in most Polynesian languages is "Kumera" which is almost identical to the word for it from Pre-Columbian South American languages.
     
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    Yeah I enjoy learning about other people that have/ may have made the journey -- I was just thinking about Columbus' contemporaries in Europe during that period of exploration.
     
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    Columbus wasn’t an Italian American so what the hell is Cuomo talking about?
     
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    Easter Islanders and Chileans do share migration routes...
     
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    Coming to court dressed like Captain Crunch...
     
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    Why is the roof of my mouth bleeding?
     
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