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Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Nomar, Mar 19, 2004.

  1. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Um, well, of course not on the pizza thing. :confused:

    I know there's a boat-load of difference between the two, but the connotation of Nomar's use of the word obviously referred to an artistic collaboration. It didn't make any exceptions for time spent on the collaboration or how long the result of the collaboration ended up being.

    Not real sure why it matters.
     
  2. bobmarley

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    I just got back from this movie and i was extremely high during it. In a way it made better since of things made things flow rather that just the hectic jumble my girlfriend recieved during some of it.

    This is an amazing cast, almost equaling dare i say LOTR preportions;)

    I did get that sense of Being John Malkovich..

    Charlie Kaufman is superb!
     
  3. Nomar

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    That smiley better mean you are not serious.

    Ian McKellan was the only real actor in the whole bunch, and his performances were so forced I was surprised he didnt squeeze a turd out during some scenes.

    Not that Sunshine had an amazing cast either, Carrey really stood out though.
     
  4. Rasselas

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    I saw Sunshine last night. It's outstanding. Smart, funny, surreal, sad, quirky, disturbing, like "Being John Malkovich" but with more soul. My heart is made from a block of ice, but even I fell in love with the characters.

    I completely agree with Nomar's review. I hate sentimentality. But Sunshine explores "love" in a way that's both nuanced and imaginative.

    Check this out. You won't be disapponited.
     
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    Um...I had a different reaction of the movie. Liked the premise, subtle messages about love/loss/second chance, the beach scenes, and Carrey's performance; but overall, the movie's direction was lacking. The closure for the plot lines seemed hurried and manufactured.

    Maybe my expectations were high (after reading all the reviews) or I'm such a loyal fan of "BladeRunner," but the flow of "Eternal Sunshine..." was a little cloudy. :)

    My friend, however, couldn't stop laughing at the supposed comedy lines.


    University (Hound Dog) Blue
     
  6. bobmarley

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    Of course I'm not serious.. :p
     
  7. Refman

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    this just strikes me as really funny. I don't know why...carry on. :)
     
  8. mrpaige

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    Because when you start counting stuff that isn't a movie, you can really distort what these things mean. A short and a feature are two so completely different things, especially a 2 minute short.

    Some things just don't count as the same thing. They aren't equal to be mentioned in the same sentence. Had Carrey and Gondry recorded a version of "Rock N' Roll All Night" instead of making a 2 minute short, it's unlikely we'd consider that recording as a collaboration needing mention in reference to the feature they've now made.

    By the same token, I wouldn't think of "Nobody's Fool" as the second collaboration between Paul Newman and Bruce Willis, even though they were both in "The Verdict"

    And if Christopher Walken ends up in Spike Jonze's next movie, I won't consider it their second collaboration.

    Sure, if you use the loose term of what a collaboration means, it's probably acceptable to use the term, but my beef is that it tends to equate the two things as roughly equal. They did a two-minute short, now they did a feature. Two collaborations, but one was a triffle and one was a massive undertaking. To me, it cheapens what they accomplish with this movie (and like it or not, it's an accomplishment to get any movie made, and this one, I know, was harder than many) by mentioning it in the same breath as something that took virtually no effort to achieve.
     
  9. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Well, the man is certainly advancing in years, and control becomes a problem. I think the long white robe gave them many hidden diaper options during filming.
     
  10. nyquil82

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    so i saw the movie a few days ago and im still thinking about it. Its excellent, and im going to need to see the movie again, which is something I almost never do. It really speaks to those who've had meaningful relationships and carrey has finally broken out of the mold of being ace ventura for me.

    kind of an epiphany i had today, as I was thinking of all the other films that were like ESOTSM, and i remembered an oldie about a boy who gets transported in a dream world, where he relives adventures with his old friends and can make whatever wishes he wants, but at the cost of his memories. Thats right, I just brought up "The Neverending Story, Part 2" , as crappy as the movie was, to a kid, it dug up some of the same emotions i got from 'spotless mind', those emotions that you feel when you fear that your best memories will disappear.
     
  11. SirCharlesFan

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    I wanted to cry at the end of the memory erasing sequence...

    Damn, easily one of my favorite dramatic movies of all time...
     
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    My only question is does a panty clad Kirstin Dunst really jump up and down on a bed as in the trailer...if so I will catch the movie regardless of other...lesser content.
     
  13. Desert Scar

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    My wife liked it well (A-/B+), I'd give it a grade lower. Carey was good as was the chemistry with the female lead, and some interesting themes, but also some real hokey premises having the movie set in modern times.

    It was better than the completely boring Being John Malkovich, but still was awefully slow in the middle. I thought there was about 30 minutes that really adding nothing to the movie.
     
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    meet me in montauk.

    this was an amazing film.
     
  15. qwerty

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    Why yes, yes she does.
     
  16. synergy

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    i left this movie almost as confused as i left the math sat II's a few years back. kirstin dunst dancing scene was the highlight of the movie for me.
     
  17. Nomar

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    :rolleyes: Being John Malkovich was excellent.


    RM95 - What was that you were saying about me not liking/comprehending love stories? Boo-yah! ;)
     
  18. A-Train

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    C'mon, Nomar, Ace Ventura was great!

    The laces were IN!!

    I didn't like it all that much. I don't like movies that require me to think. If I wanted to think, I'd read a book...
     
  19. Desert Scar

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    Each to his own, I found it a terrific sleep aid.
     
  20. JuanValdez

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    I saw it a week ago. I thought it is pretty to very good. Not as good as Adaptation, but good. I thought the middle of the movie was a bit too long and could have done with losing a couple of scenes. They were doing work, but it felt somewhat inefficient. It wasn't so much the time as the number of scene changes. It had me worried he'd be stuck in this struggle all night -- realtime. The other reason I have minor reservations is that the concept was a bit small. Which isn't a criticism; small concept stories, written tightly and well, can be very good (a la Great Gatsby), but it operates at a competitive disadvantage.

    It did however leave me in a depressive funk that carried through the next day. A movie that has that much of an effect on someone has done something right.
     

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