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In the future all the teams will use small and quick player front Yao!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jiongni, Mar 27, 2004.

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  1. jiongni

    jiongni Member

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    I do not think that any player in the legue is able to hold Yao under 20 points when they use regular post defence aganist Yao. Although Yao did had bad numbers when he faced Warrior's and King's defence last week, I still think they did not use an efficient defence against Yao. The bad number just meant he had an off night.

    However, when the teams use a smaller and quicker player front yao and makes him get the ball difficultly, they rockets inside offensive is shut down( Najera's defence and last night swift's defence).

    I believe that every team can find a 6'10 player play the way these two guys played, they just need some extra trainning time(maybe unnecessary).

    Therefore, the team and Yao must work on it seriously.

    Yao must increase his physical strength. His playing time is not enough to help the team win the playoff games. It is pretty hurt to see his exhausted face during the game(just in regular season).This is the biggest problem which he and the team must solve.

    JVG have to find a way playing againt front play. The front stategy is pretty efficient until today but I do not think a 7'6 C with strong body and whole package skills can be shut down by it.
    Except his coach only knows how to play D.

    All other 4 players have to realize that feeding the ball to Yao is the first option during the offensive. They do try to feed the ball to inside but sometimes the pass is just too slow( when Yao get his position but the defender just front him immdeiately ,his teammates have to pass him as soon as he has the position, do not wait even 1 second).
     
    #1 jiongni, Mar 27, 2004
  2. Rule0001

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    your absolutely right.

    and theres really no question about Yao's effectiveness when played straight up (see Orlando, Portland, etc)

    but in the case of the Dallas game a while back, a smaller and quicker defender such as Najera posed problems for yao.

    hopefully the rockets personnel can figure out ways around this when it happens in future games.
     
    #2 Rule0001, Mar 28, 2004
  3. qpx

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    No need to worry about. How many teams have guy like grant?
    Also they will find a way. :)
     
    #3 qpx, Mar 28, 2004
  4. DallasThomas

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    When the Rockets beat the Lakers on Christmas day, all the sports people were talking about how the Rockets had finally formulated a way to lower Shaq's effectiveness. Take him out top by running a high post/pick-n-roll/screen scheme. The only problem with this was that it only worked that well for one game. Since, it's effectiveness has diminished as Shaq adjusts. Yao will do the same. If teams keep throwing little guys at him to shake him up, he'll quickly learn how to use his size to his advantage in that situation as well. And I'm sure while playing with the Sharks he encountered nothing but smaller, quicker big men...but since he's been in the NBA he hasn't really had to play those types. It probably wouldn't take long before he started playing like he was in the CBA all over again.
     
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    if the rocket players would throw a nice crisp pass up towards yaos head and not towards yaos legs, there would be no problem of a little defender stealing the ball. :mad:
     
    #5 sup123, Mar 28, 2004
  6. MONON

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    As long as Yao continues to play bball year round, his stamina will suffer & he won't be able to play extended minutes. As far as a smaller, quicker player fronting him; a lob straight over the top instead of off to the side is the answer. We probably won't get much time to work on this till camp this fall unfortunately.

    Does anyone know when Yao will get a summer away from the CBA?
     
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  7. Charvo

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    What I don't understand is why some players do a bounce pass to Yao. It's much easier for a smaller defender to reach down to steal the ball. I don't see the Lakers throwing bounce passes to Shaq.

    I saw a recent Twolves-Spurs game in which Garnett was guarding Duncan at the end of the game. Garnett was getting scored on by Duncan, so he tried to prevent the pass to Duncan by fronting him. The Spurs immediately swung a pass to the top of the key and then passed it right to Duncan in the paint. The weakside defender had to foul Duncan. It was excellent execution by the Spurs. Judging from the putrid proficiency of the Rockets in passing, I don't see this happening. The passing on the perimeter is obviously the worst of the playoff teams, and Yao needs to be way more forceful in accepting the pass when the pass arrives from the top of the key.

    Of all the playoff teams in the West, the Rockets' perimeter passing gets picked off the most due to the poor passing skills.
     
    #7 Charvo, Mar 28, 2004
  8. jiongni

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    I saw it too, That's kind of quick and easy pass is a good weapon to kill the front defence but the rockets guard does not do it well(often).
    They did had the simlilar pass couple of times but most time they just move the ball to weak side or make a random shot.
     
    #8 jiongni, Mar 28, 2004
  9. Sane

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    When teams front Yao, they are basically double-teaming him.

    In this case, why don't we just leave Yao and his two (or one and a half) defenders out of the play, and attack the rest of the team?

    Why don't we go to the backcourt in these situations?

    We need a PF who can punish these defenses (like MoT) but who isn't a liability in other areas (unlike MoT).
     
    #9 Sane, Mar 28, 2004
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    only if they can find the open man quick enough AND he can score ...
     
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    Rasheed Wallace, 6.9M T.E
     
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    Agreed and this is another factor why we need a Playmaker {Point Guard. Francis who is trying his best to iimitate a Point Guard is such a poor decission maker and can't make a decent pass when he is being guarded. Serious Roster changes will be required to achieve the Inside Outside Game.
     
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    Well, perhaps that works with other teams, not with Rockets.

    Do you notice what's position other Rox guys used to stand when Yao double teamed? Francis/JJ/Cat travel around the arc while Cato or Mo stand near the FT line. That means NO Rocket had better chance to grab the rebound. This is our "chronic illness"!

    "attack the rest of the team?" It's a gamble with luck -- ball in or ball out without second chance points.
     
    #13 ayears, Mar 28, 2004
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