Leaked? Steele went to the FBI with his intelligence and the FBI interviewed him for multiple hours. That's how the FBI obtained it. Ya I know, the FBI used intelligence from a former MI6 agent who was an expert in Russian intelligence who was already trusted by US intelligence services. How absurd. So please explain how that is corrupt? The FBI already had other underlying probable cause for an investigation and the Steele Dossier was just another piece. Those FBI officials weren't DNC operatives. They weren't political agents. They were career law enforcement personel and their evidence was brought forth to a neutral arbiter that was a federal judge who wasn't even appointed by Obama. There was zero neutral arbiters in the Ukraine extortion scandal. No judge signing off warrants. No federal investigators. No US intelligence officials. Just political operatives hunting for dirt and Trump freezing already approved aid to Ukraine by Congress and already signed off by the Trump administration because of a political witch hunt by political biased actors for purely political reasons. And at no point did Trump specifically order those FBI agents to investigate. Obama was briefed that the FBI had probable cause to start an investigation. He wasn't the one who started it unlike what Trump did with Biden and Ukraine.
How is this a bomb? Nothing in that article is actually factual except fo the fact that these meetings took place and nothing that was actually talked about in these meetings. It is all supposition and opinion, what do you think is explosive about this article?
If you read the article it’s loaded with insinuating words so they can manipulate readers on the right. In reality... the Obama admin was doing their jobs. I don’t want to offend Baffled or anything but I’m sorry... you’re being a sucker. Again... if Biden was found to have multi million dollar business deals directly with the Chinese government at the same time as the Chinese were attacking our election to try and get Biden elected... Baffled, Dagger, Commodore, etc. would be saying that it’s the Trump admins job led by Chris Wray to investigate and take prosecutorial action if laws were being broken. Hell I think they’d probably go further than that regardless of due process.
Baffled knows exactly what he is doing, he is not being suckered at all he is trying to take us for suckers. I am 80% sure it's O's.
Looking at trump's rabid supporters attempting to defend the indefensible, I can't help but be reminded of Jack Nicholson's famous remark from A Few Good Men. You can't handle the truth. Sessions responds to Trump attack: 'I do not and will not break the law' By Maegan Vazquez, CNN updated 3:04 PM ET, Fri May 8, 2020 Washington (CNN) Former Trump-appointed Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Friday defended his 2017 decision to recuse himself from the Russia investigation, after President Donald Trump attacked Sessions for not "being a man" and quashing the probe. Sessions said in a statement that he recused himself because he was abiding by the law. "To not recuse myself from that investigation, of which I was a target as a senior campaign official and a witness, would have been breaking the law. I do not and will not break the law," Sessions. "I did the right thing for the country and for President Trump. If I, as a target of the investigation, had broken the law by not recusing myself, it would have been a catastrophe for the rule of law and for the President." Sessions became a source of Trump's public frustration when in early 2017 the then-attorney general recused himself from the Russia investigation. His recusal came after it was publicly revealed that he didn't disclose at his Senate confirmation hearing two pre-election meetings with Russia's then-ambassador to the US, Sergey Kislyak. Trump told "Fox and Friends" Friday morning that he felt obligated to appoint Sessions to the job, calling him "very weak and very sad." The President was asked during a Friday morning call to "Fox & Friends" if there would have been a Russia probe had Bill Barr, the current attorney general, been attorney general during the start of the Trump administration. "No, there wouldn't be. He would have stopped it immediately. ... Jeff Sessions was a disaster. I made him -- I didn't want to make him attorney general but he was the first senator to endorse me so I felt a little bit of an obligation," Trump said. Barr defends dropping Flynn case: 'I'm doing the law's bidding' Trump added that Sessions "came to see me four times, just begging me to be attorney general. He wasn't, you know, to me, equipped to be attorney general. But he wanted and wanted and wanted it." Sessions said in his statement that he continues to support Trump and will vote for him in the fall, but he said he "never begged for the job of Attorney General, not 4 times, not 1 time, not ever." On "Fox and Friends," Trump said of Sessions, "He goes in -- he was so bad in his nomination proceedings. I should have gotten rid of him there," adding that he "knew less about Russia than I did." "But they got him standing on a line with Kislyak ... everyone in Washington knew Kislyak," he remarked. "Instead of being a man and saying 'this is a hoax,' he recused himself," the President added, even though such an action by Sessions could have amounted to obstruction of justice. During the Russia investigation, Trump tried to get Sessions to curtail the probe, which special counsel Robert Mueller later said checked all the boxes for obstruction. While past US presidents have largely left the Justice Department and, within it, the FBI, to be independent, Trump has said he has seen himself as the country's "chief law enforcement officer" -- a title typically used to refer to the attorney general. Barr's Justice Department has acted more as an arm of Trump's defense than an independent arbiter of justice. The current attorney general has disagreed with his own agency's watchdog report saying that Russia probe was justified. He has defended the removal of the intelligence community inspector general who notified Congress of the existence of a whistleblower complaint about Trump pressuring the Ukrainian President for political help. And most recently, he said the Justice Department had a "duty" to move to dismiss charges against Trump's first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, for lying to the FBI. The request to drop the case drew criticism from former top FBI officials who had worked on the case. And former federal prosecutor Elie Honig told CNN Thursday that he had never seen such a flagrant political act by the Justice Department. "The fix is in," said Honig, a legal analyst for CNN. "This is an absolute injustice. Michael Flynn lied to the FBI, he pled guilty under oath in federal court to doing that, he took a plea, and then what does Bill Barr do? He says of all the tens of thousands of cases he's been in charge of in the Department of Justice, look at that one," Honig said. "And now we see Bill Barr doing Donald Trump's dirty work." CNN's Marshall Cohen, Joe Johns Kaitlan Collins and Stephen Collinson contributed to this report. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/08/politics/jeff-sessions-donald-trump-obligated/?hpt=ob_blogfooterold
I don’t know why you think I’m O, other than he hasn’t been around. I do think it’s kinda funny though. As much as you guys think I’m the sucker, I and I’m pretty sure most on the other side, believe the same thing about you guys. Trust me on that. When I discuss politics with a client or anyone besides the D&D and my wife, we shake our head in disbelief, wondering why you guys can’t see it for what it is. And that’s not an insult or anything. My wife, just doesn’t want to talk about it at all. So, the D&D is much more interesting because you guys are the only guys/gals who have an intelligent dialogue that I happen to disagree with. Where the hell is O?? I could use a little help here.
That's not the only reason I know you are O's. So why do you think you and your wife have any special insight that others don't, what makes you and her so special to look down on people who disagree with you? What do you mean, you guys? Are you once again trying to paint me as some diehard democrat who is partisan?
Whoa... You took a harmless post and turned it around into something it’s not. First off, my wife hates Trump. She’s not a Democrat but will vote for anyone not Trump. We can’t have a discussion without her getting emotional. When I say you guys, I mean the People who have opposite political views. I didn’t single YOU out although I suppose you might be in that category. And I didn’t say anything derogatory, or if I did it was unintentional. Why escalate it to something that’s disrespectful? I’m not going there. I do respect YOU GUY/GAL’s views. I simply disagree. And that’s all I got to say about that.
I understand having disagreements in terms of ideology, solutions, philsopt ext but the issue here is that you and I along with any other posters have different set of underlying facts. You made an assetoon that a Federalist article is making claims that what Obama did with the Russia investigation is equivalent to what Trump did with extorting a foerign nation to make them investigate his political rival. I explained how they are completely different where one president allowed the FBI to perform their own independent investigation without his direct involvement outside of being briefed on the situation where a federal judge signed off on warrants when another president used an internet consipracy theory that had no involvement with US intelligence agencies and law enforcement and no involvement of US federal judges and only involved biased political actors who had no affiliation with the federal government to extort a foerign country to investigate his political rival.
So I guess this is responding to me. How am I tourning it into anything? How am I being disrespectful by asking you why it's justified for you and your wife to think we people are missing something and that she needs to shake her head and feel sorry for us? What does you wife hating Trump have to do with anything, why are you even bringing Trump up in this discussion? What is my view? How am I being disrespectful?
My guess is that this Covid 19 nightmare has made some folks decide to take a break from arguing on D&D at least temporarily. And with no sports, there is less reason to be on the GARM. I sincerely doubt that Os would pretend to be a different poster.
Neal Katyal bio: Neal Kumar Katyal is an American lawyer and partner at Hogan Lovells, as well as Paul and Patricia Saunders Professor of National Security Law at Georgetown University Law Center. Katyal served as Acting Solicitor General of the United States from May 2010 until June 2011. The US Justice Department awarded Katyal the Edmund Randolph Award, the highest honor the Department can bestow on a civilian. The National Law Journal named Katyal its runner-up for "Lawyer of the Year" in 2006 and in 2004 awarded him its Pro Bono award. American Lawyer Magazine considered him one of the top 50 litigators nationally. Washingtonian Magazine named him one of the 30 best living Supreme Court advocates;Legal Times (jointly owed by American Lawyer Media) profiled him as one of the "90 Greatest Lawyers over the Last 30 Years".
