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Magic Number! Countdown to the PLAYOFFS..

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bigboymumu, Mar 5, 2004.

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  1. cancan

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    4-way tie scenario is not possible since there have one game left between Portland and Denver and they all have 35 losts.
     
  2. Kayman

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    GREAT JOB cancan! It is 7 indeed!!! 7-6 the rest of the way theoretically assures a playoff spot
     
  3. xicloud

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    what's the magic number now? 6 or 7?
     
  4. lancet

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    With the win over Toronto, the magic number is
    6

    This is based on cancan's analysis about the best case scenarios for Denver, Utah, and Portland.
     
  5. francis 4 prez

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    of course, y'all aren't really doing the magic number if you're just looking for how many wins we need. the magic number is almost always used as the combined wins for your team and losses by the other team needed to clinch something. taking into account future matchups is wrong b/c once those teams play that game, you're saying it has no effect on the magic number because you've already taken that into account.

    so while 6 wins may clinch it for us, our magic number (the way it's always portrayed) is 7. i think we'd have to already have clinched both tiebreakers (not just be leading them now) to have it at 6.
     
  6. Jookyhc

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    This is the first thread I've read on this board, and already I have a headache.

    I'm going to let y'all figure this out, and I'll believe whatever you post...for now.
     
  7. axmpo

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    Right now the only problem I have with this thread is, for such an interesting and long lasting topic, how come it only has 4 stars? :(
     
  8. famicom

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    LOL! This post is freakin hilarious!! After every game we always get two sets of people who think its one number or one number less than they say. You guys deserve the workhorse award for this bbs!:)
     
  9. Blatz

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    Since there seems to be some confusion on the Rockets magic number, I did a google search and I got a link to this thread. Oh well.
     
  10. daoshi

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    Yes, the magic number is 6. Here is what I got,

    Since Denver has ONE game remaining against each of Utah & Portland, the worst senario for us is Dever loses both games, so both Utah & Portland will end up with a record of 47-35. Since we hold the tie-break over the Blazers, we only need to win 6. to get in.

    If Dever win all the remaining games with a 47-35 record, that means both Utah and Plazers would have lost to them, so the best those two teams can get is 46-36. That means we still need 47-35 to get in assume Utah wins all the remaining games, and have the tie-break over us.

    So the magic record as of today is 47-35.


    Houston 41-29
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    Denver 38-35 (47-35)
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    Sat, Mar 27 at Utah (*****)
    Fri, Apr 2 vs Houston
    Thu, Apr 9 at Houston
    Fri, Apr 10 vs Portland (*****)


    Utah 37-35 (47-35)
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    Sat, Mar 27 vs Denver (*****)
    Sat, Apr 10 vs Houston


    Portland 36-35 (47-35)
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    Sat, Apr 10 at Denver (*****)
     
  11. CharlieChan

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    ONCE AGAIN: the MAGIC NUMBER does NOT consider future games!

    The MAGIC NUMBER is calculated with a given formula, just like Einsteins equations, the equation for a MAGIC NUMBER does not change by definition.

    MAGIC NUMBER = G-W-L+X

    G= number of games in season
    W = number of wins for your team
    L = number of losses for team being measure against
    X = 0 for MAGIC NUMBER to TIE and X = 1 for MAGINC NUMBER to clinch

    What is so difficult about this!

    While future team game matchups can be evaluated so that you can say I can guarantee at least 1 more loss - its still does not change the definition of the MAGINC NUMBER. You have to wait until you get there.

    Again, why is this so hard for some of you, is it that you can't stand rules?
     
  12. daoshi

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    Do we have to take your definition of Magic Number? The definition of the Magic Number on this BBS has been clearly defined by the thread originator, it's very clear for all of us, there is no need to try to be a smartass:mad:
     
  13. Aemon

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    Hey Daoshi, live and learn buddy.
     
  14. Visagial

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    Daoshi is totally right. If we win 6 more games, no matter whom against, we're in the playoffs. If the Blazers and Jazz win all the rest of their games, they'll be 47-35. Since we'll have the best interteam record among the three, we'll be the seventh seed. Denver in this scenario can only be 46-36 (because Portland will have beaten them) so they're out.

    If Denver wins all of their games, they'll be 47-35, Portland will be out and Utah will be out because they will have lost to Denver. The best they could do is 46-36. So we're in the playoffs in this scenario too. Our seeding will be based on our record against Denver.

    Magic number is 6!

     
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    Without using any math, but common sense and viewing each team's finishing schedule.

    We need 4 more wins to clinch a playoff spot.

    Utah and Denver have a realistic chance of 6-7 wins

    if they both finish with 44 wins

    we need 45 wins to be sure we don't end up at #9 and the lottery.

    I target 45 wins to get in
    46 wins to guarantee the 7 seed.

    Look at the schedules and think about it.
     
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    4 is the least number of wins to get into the playoffs if three of the 4 wins are over Denver(twice) and Utah, and Denver beats Utah. In this scenario, all three teams share the same record 45-37, but we hold the tie-breaker over both of them-even Portland wins their remaining games.
     
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    Magic number appears to be 4 now. Utah beat denver tonight, denver's best possible record is 45-37. (right now they're 38-37), we're 41-30. We're to the point where even a total collapse might land us in the playoffs.
     
  18. Visagial

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    Portland, if they hold on tonight, can still finish 47-35. So can Utah. So we still need to win 6 games to guarantee a playoff berth.

    The magic number is 6.
     
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    I just want to know what it will take to lock up the 7th seed. Can you guys tell me that because i dont want to play Sacramento in the first round. We need that 7th seed
     
  20. MONON

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    Since Utah (8th seed) & Portland (9th seed) both have 35 losses, the magic number to clinch a playoff spot & the 7th seed is 7.
     
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