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COVID-19 (coronavirus disease)/SARS-CoV-2 virus

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by tinman, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. Hakeemtheking

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    In one of the vaccine trials, they are asking for young and healthy volunteers. These are desperate times, so I would hope that these "volunteers" are somehow compensated.
     
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  2. Ottomaton

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    Reminder - 1918 Flu epidemic occured in three different waves where it seemed like they'd beaten it back. The second pass occured less than 6 months after the first and was deadlier than the first go around.
     
  3. Nick

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    Its essentially what happens when they develop a flu vaccine every year... its based on previous strains. Some years very effective.... other years not so much.
     
  4. Invisible Fan

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    Any good site you've read before that touches on the flu? I guess wiki is helpful....

    Always interesting that the history I read about then were more about milestones or political causes up to the event. Something like Flu epidemic was a checkpoint like the Panic of 18xx than a marathon of social distress and subsequent upheaval.
     
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  5. robbie380

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    I'm spoilering this post because I ran it by a few people and this **** is extremely speculative. I was going to delete it completely, but I'll leave it up. This Harvard epidemiologist has posted some very speculative things in the past that he probably should not have. I will probably keep following him on twitter, but anything he posts I will have to really verify now.





    Don’t go into complete panic mode because it doesn’t replicate in T cells

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...uld-target-immune-system-targeting-protective

    But there was one major difference between Sars-CoV-2 and HIV, according to the new study.

    HIV can replicate in the T cells and turn them into factories to generate more copies to infect other cells.

    But Lu and Jiang did not observe any growth of the coronavirus after it entered the T-cells, suggesting that the virus and T-cells might end up dying together.


    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41423-020-0424-9

    Took me awhile to find the actual study

     
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  6. Ziggy

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    So, is it like herpes (no offense, Fatty - lulz)? Going to keep coming back?
     
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  7. No Worries

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    Thank God for Red States! amirite?
     
  8. Surfguy

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    Pink Floyd predicted the look of this virus back in 1995.

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  9. malakas

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    The fire has reached 5 kms from the main reactor in Chernobyl right now.

    Well that's it,
    Bush fires, pandemic, the biggest locust swarm in 20 years...now a fire in a nuclear reactor.
    All that is missing is a supervolcano explosion, a tsunami and aliens.
    And a giant meteorite.
     
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  10. Hakeemtheking

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    You forgot the zombies!
     
  11. Ziggy

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    WTF is Trump playing on his daily address right now, LULZZZZ. Unsolicited propaganda clip. Black Mirror. O lawd.
     
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  12. daywalker02

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    Aren't you the harbinger of good news?

     
  13. Invisible Fan

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    It's highly speculative in as we don't know much about this aspect.
    The smell symptom is suspected to be a side effect of the virus deploying tactics to compromise the immune system.

    I don't remember which article posted here, but there was some medical professional that wrote about his corona experience and one part was that the loss of smell was due to a fungus that took advantage of the immune system being weakened.

    This too is speculation but would explain why not everyone experiences a loss of smell and is not considered a direct symptom of corona.
     
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  14. Cokebabies

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    We've only been on lock down for 1 month in LA. I can't imagine how bad things will look after 2 months. The irony is right next to this shot of the food bank, the new $5B LA Rams stadium is being built.

     
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  15. Astrodome

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    Damn, wyoming has had it's first death.
     
  16. CCity Zero

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    This actually had me thinking about this, since there is the HSV-1 which is found in like ~70% of the world population and only a small percent ever get cold sores or show symptoms in their life, I was wondering on the reinfection rate for some patients having a more susceptible immune system, ie stress/certain genetic factors/differing immune response etc etc which is allowing them to show positive again. I was also thinking maybe a different strain/mutation etc..

    And then I was curious per the site the virus uses if certain parts of the population would have a rare mutation to this entirely but still be carriers - similar to small percentage of the population immune to HIV. I can't recall the percent, but typically a very small percent of the population will have a mutation/positive defect that basically prevents one strain of virus from wiping out the entire race... I think for example on HIV it's less than ~10%. ie if no prevention/meds/education occurred a lot more people would have died off and then you would have the rare mutation becoming the norm and allowing the race to survive while still carrying the virus (obviously similar to primates that can carry SIV, this could take some ridiculous amount of generations).

    Anyway, this whole thing is a mess, especially when the WHO admits they don't even know what's going on.
     
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  17. Hakeemtheking

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    Taiwan released a December email to the WHO, which that nearly useless organization pretty much ignored. The contents of that email discussed a possible human to human infection.

    The WHO is looking worse by the day. I don't need a hearing to have some heads chopped off. Billions of dollars for minimal benefit.
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    So basically my first 2 years of college?
     
  19. malakas

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    Make it 1 km now.

    At least if we get radioactive it will kill all the viruses.
     
  20. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Was just checking to see if they really know how the immune system evolved, or even how it knows when to act or not act ( like on your own baby in the womb), and really, they still have no clue despite understanding the physiology and mechanics. There's no biological record of it. Although they do know that microorganisms have it. It remains mostly a mystery.

    Amazing to think that we basically have a defense system against just about anything. Nearly perfect. But we don't know why. I mean, how often do you run into something that well designed in any facet of life that it can take on anything with nearly no instruction or information.
     
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