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Just on CNBC: Tilman might be forced to sell

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TilmanFinancialWindfall, Apr 2, 2020.

  1. Toffeeone

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    Its a guess from those people because casinos and restaurants are doing poorly. However they forgot that no one is going to sell when it’s low unless he is at the brink of bankruptcy. Besides who’s gonna to buy or willing to shell out 2 billions or it? No banks will offer to loan at these risky times even when the interest rate is like next to nothing.
     
  2. Possum

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    lol I guess the rest of the worlds leaders are inept as well seeing as how they all prett much were behind trump in reacting to the virus. Keep on living in your little bubble down in your moms basement hoping a Democrat wins and releases to in from your college loan. Maybe someday you can get you a job with that art degree genius. Don’t know if any of that is true but you sure for the profile.
     
  3. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    There's definitely a case to be made for that. Next time someone decides to get a wet market Coronavirus the other countries of the world should quarantine the heck out of that country, or else we will get what we are getting - fragmented, non empirical, sometimes borderline conspiratorial responses from politicians across the board, and trillions of dollars of economic impact.
     
  4. SamFisher

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    Nope, the US has had the worst response of any developed country, which is why we are going to be the worldwide leader in deaths before Monday.

    This is not even debatable. Why do you think the COVID case curves and unemployment data here are vertical? Fake news?

    I guess you can argue that the Trump-loving Shitbird Dictators like Bolsonaro in Brazil have been even worse, but, lol, have higher standards?

    South Korea and the US confirmed local cases on the same day

    We have 15,000 deaths and they have 200.

    We have ****ing corpse trucks and they have reopened schools.

    They were prepared. They acted. We weren't. We didn't.

    That is entirely on Trump. Take it from a VERY STABLE GENIUS himself



    You played a part in this by voting for him. You should read the obituaries and feel shame and embarrassment at your selfishness.
     
  5. Cherenqueco

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    You think a Hillary or Biden admin would have done a better job? Give me a break. The dead would be substantially higher and the borders would still be wide open. You have a worse virus than the chinese coronavirus. Liberalism and TDS. You should get that checked out.
     
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  6. The Beard

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    1. LOL comparing death numbers with us and Korea makes sense huh, I mean we are both about the same size lololol

    2. Yall take this political crap to the proper forum, both sides are making yourself look foolish
     
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  7. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    Just like how I think Abbott and Bonnen have handled this better than a Dan Patrick, I would say a Pence, Mnuchin, Kelly, Mattis, or a Carson would handle this better.
     
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  8. SamFisher

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    lololol

    Korea has about 200 deaths and the US has 15,000 (and climbing, rapidly).

    The US is about 6x Korea's population, and will have at least 100x as many deaths, probably by this weekend

    lololol

    Please see above.
     
  9. clutchdabear

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    I hate trump just as much as anyone.. but you really can't put the blame on him for the coronavirus response. It falls squarely on the WHO and the CDC, and both organizations, who's expertise is in this field, were absolutely inept in dealing with the outbreak from the start and properly warn people all over the world of the threat of coronavirus.

    You mentioned South Korea, but South Korea's effective response was solely due to the citizen's risk-averse nature and because of companies like Samsung forking over billions of dollars just to keep the country afloat. Korean people already wear facemasks nearly everyday because of bad air quality, and unlike what the CDC initially reported, wearing N95 grade masks ACTUALLY DOES help in preventing transmission of coronavirus, and at the least, it keeps asymptomatic people from spreading it to others. Koreans also go to the hospital for the smallest of things, and their wary nature just made them go to the hospital early on to get tested before the virus really started spreading. President Moon probably did worse than Trump in terms of government response to coronavirus. He literally gave away facemasks and gowns to China and North Korea for free when South Korea was already in a shortage of both supplies. People had to wait weeks in South Korea during the crisis of the pandemic just to buy facemasks. Doctors didn't have enough gowns or sanitation equipment to deal with overwhelming numbers because, again, President Moon gave away those medical supplies for free to other countries, including North Korea, at a time when South Korea had thousands of coronavirus patients. Imagine the outrage in the US if Trump did that.... Also, South Korea didn't implement any stay-at-home orders or social distancing. They didn't suspend people from China from entering the country. President Moon was more concerned with the economy and his decreasing popularity and couldn't afford to see the economy tank. The only difference between the response from South Korea and the US at the start of coronavirus is the fact that Koreans were wearing masks and Americans weren't. And guess who didn't recommend the use of masks.... the CDC.

    The WHO should've been the organization to tell every country to take coronavirus seriously and to suspend travel to and from China from the outset of the outbreak. If Trump decided to suspend travel from China and Europe back in December, then the public outcry of discrimination would have been so severe... same goes for any other country in today's society. An independent apolitical organization like the WHO, who knew of the virus outbreak in late November-early December, could've recommended worldwide travel restriction orders back in December to prevent coronavirus from spreading, but they instead took money from the Chinese government to lay low and keep quiet until Chinese New Year's... which was nearly 2 months after the initial news of a virus outbreak in Wuhan. Chinese New Year's being such a big holiday, the Chinese government didn't want to see their economy crippled due to a shutdown and they willingly sacrificed their own citizen's health and safety for economic reasons. And with Chinese New Year's being such a long layoff, you had Chinese people traveling all over the world late January-early February... which was likely why the virus spread all over the world, and hit so hard in places like Italy and Spain.

    I hate that I'm defending Trump, but this really isn't on him. America would have had an insufficient response regardless of who was in charge, if the WHO and CDC are so incapable of doing what they are paid to do.
     
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  10. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    Well he has higher tv ratings than the Rockets on NBA TV during the playoffs...
     
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  11. SamFisher

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    I know, I don't even understand why the USA must rely on CDC, Why can't we just get our own CDC? GET A BRAIN MORANS Thanks Obama!

    via atlantic/frum:

    That the pandemic occurred is not Trump’s fault. The utter unpreparedness of the United States for a pandemic is Trump’s fault. The loss of stockpiled respirators to breakage because the federal government let maintenance contracts lapse in 2018 is Trump’s fault. The failure to store sufficient protective medical gear in the national arsenal is Trump’s fault. That states are bidding against other states for equipment, paying many multiples of the precrisis price for ventilators, is Trump’s fault. Air travelers summoned home and forced to stand for hours in dense airport crowds alongside infected people? That was Trump’s fault too. Ten weeks of insisting that the coronavirus is a harmless flu that would miraculously go away on its own? Trump’s fault again. The refusal of red-state governors to act promptly, the failure to close Florida and Gulf Coast beaches until late March? That fault is more widely shared, but again, responsibility rests with Trump: He could have stopped it, and he did not.

    The lying about the coronavirus by hosts on Fox News and conservative talk radio is Trump’s fault: They did it to protect him. The false hope of instant cures and nonexistent vaccines is Trump’s fault, because he told those lies to cover up his failure to act in time. The severity of the economic crisis is Trump’s fault; things would have been less bad if he had acted faster instead of sending out his chief economic adviser and his son Eric to assure Americans that the first stock-market dips were buying opportunities. The firing of a Navy captain for speaking truthfully about the virus’s threat to his crew? Trump’s fault. The fact that so many key government jobs were either empty or filled by mediocrities? Trump’s fault. The insertion of Trump’s arrogant and incompetent son-in-law as commander in chief of the national medical supply chain? Trump’s fault.

    For three years, Trump has blathered and bluffed and bullied his way through an office for which he is utterly inadequate. But sooner or later, every president must face a supreme test, a test that cannot be evaded by blather and bluff and bullying. That test has overwhelmed Trump.

    Trump failed. He is failing. He will continue to fail. And Americans are paying for his failures.
     
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  12. daywalker02

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    Funny I think Trump articulated another way..... The WHO did nothing but take US money, listen to the Chinese who gave them half the money, much less than the US.
     
  13. clutchdabear

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    k enough with derailing this thread.
    sell the ****ing team already, tilman.
     
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  14. tinman

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    doubt the team is going to be sold
     
  15. RudyTBag

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    If you can't put the blame on the guy that fired damn near all scientists in the White House, I'm not sure who you can blame. (Including the Pandemic Response team...)

    Trump voters need to take ownership. Dude was essentially calling it a hoax when the data was already out there. Zero scientific integrity.

    And... SELL THE TEAM TILMAN.
     
  16. Hakeemtheking

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    There is no question that the WHO and its president are/were to cozy with China. The severity of this pandemic worldwide rests with the WHO. In America, the CDC and Trump should share the blame.
     
  17. daywalker02

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    I was referring to the payment, it was funny how furious the US administration was because WHO didn't listen but still took the Benjamins....and always one step too slow.
     
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  18. clutchdabear

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    I understand that point. But at the same time, Trump has become such a joke of a leader and a literal meme that anyone who is depending on him to give actual fact-based responses is already losing the battle. The WHO isn't dependent on US funding... it's a worldwide organization... and it failed on epic proportions to warn people all over the world about the dangers of coronavirus. Sure the CDC had funding cut because Trump is a ****ing idiot, but that didn't prevent the CDC from telling Americans how to properly safeguard themselves from the spread of coronavirus. In fact, the CDC told people to not wear facemasks in public unless they were showing symptoms even with reports coming out in December that people could be asymptomatic for as long as 2 weeks.

    Hasn't it been obvious for the past 3+ years that Trump is no scientist...heck he didn't even get a proper college degree. The stuff he says goes in one ear and right out the other for me. This coronavirus response was so goddam frustrating because of how corrupt the WHO is and because the CDC never took the virus as seriously as they should have.
     
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  19. TilmanFinancialWindfall

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    It's kind of sad if you think about it where we are as Texans and Americans.

    Texas teams:
    Texans: Bill Ole Brian Dead trading Hopkins for a horrible contract
    Astros: you know the story
    Rockets: Tilman Broke AF

    USA: laughing stock of the world right now because we didn't take this seriously when Asian countries locked down since they had experience back in 2003
     
  20. BigBum

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    All Assumptions

    April - Rockets worth 2.0 billion
    December worth 1.7 billion
    Loan amounts 1.2 billion

    April - Landry’s worth 6.1 billion
    April Loan amount 4.1 billion
    December worth 4.0 billion
    December loan amount 4.3 billion

    Tilman has to sell Rockets. He isn’t able to make monthly payments after December.
     
    #440 BigBum, Apr 9, 2020
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2020

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