Pretty much... why did we have to bailout GM, etc? Cruise lines employ about a million people world wide and draw a ton of business for airlines, hotels, bus services, etc in the cities they leave from. Also, you would be crushing Caribbean islands that depend on that revenue.
between this and the norovirus I would never get on one. the ships are not under an american flag, ****em GM and Ford are not at all like cruise companies
Well cruise lines employ about 420k people in the US. That is way more than GM and Ford combined. I don't like bailing out any of these companies... but they are also mostly headquartered in the swing state of Florida.
royal Caribbean is 77K employees, carnival is 33,500 where are you getting half a million and what percentage of the real number (77K for RC) are american citizens? you know the waitstaff and such make about a dollar an hour right?
If there's any industry that's a moral hazard for pandemics, it's cruising. Give the employees relief, give the owners ****-all.
There's no industry that behaved riskily w/r/t COViD-19 pandemic, IMO, with the very obvious exception of floating petri dish cruises (norovirus, etc).
Mickey Arison, a mar-a-lago buddy of Trump & Miami heat owner is a cruise empresario. He has already been speaking to Trump, according to reports
I saw it in an article against a cruise line bailout. "Thus, you may be wondering about the cruise line workers themselves. According to that Law360 piece, we’re supposedly talking about more than 420,000 U.S. employees alone" https://www.thedrive.com/news/32715/the-cruise-industry-absolutely-does-not-deserve-a-bailout and here is the article in references. https://www.law360.com/articles/1254535/cruise-line-tax-exemption-under-fire-as-trump-floats-bailout So they aren't talking about just cruise line employees here is the direct quote from this article. "The Cruise Lines International Association, an industry trade group, said the industry supports 421,000 jobs in the U.S., including “travel agencies, airlines, hotels and a broad supply chain of industries that extend well beyond the cruise lines themselves.” For every 1% drop in bookings, 2,000 jobs are lost, according to the association."
These bills are not looking at it like a leisure industry, but an industry that employs people. It's a short term measure, not long term, and cruise companies employ hundreds of thousands of people. For long term we'll see if people start going on them again, I never got the appeal but they are very popular.
So if 100% of bookings died, 200K jobs gone amirite? arlines, hotels etc are already getting bailed out. travel agencies will book to other destinations once people realize how **** cruises are. Most of these ships have a bahamas flag, let them go ask the west indies for a bailout. If you want to bailout the employees, it will cost you almost nothing.
I am for ZERO bailouts for any company. If the company is "too big to fail" it should have been broken up before. I am just giving my opinion of why the politicians are bailing this industry out.
Banks and airlines employ thousands of high paying jobs. They are cogs in the economic machine. Cruises employ hundred of low paying jobs. Cruises are a niche luxury and I would not have bailed them out. But no one listens to me so...
trump early on was saying the cruise industry needed a bailout... Cruise safety over bailout is White House focus for industry amid coronavirus https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article241074506.html We can't let the cruise lines go out of business': Trump https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/news/we-cant-let-cruise-lines-go-out-business-trump I suspect trump is thinking they are a vital cog in the travel/hospitality industry. I also suspect trump has strong ties to executives in the cruise industry from his own past in travel and hospitality.
There’s no language in the current bill for any type of aid to the cruise ship industry and I hope it stays that way. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po.../whats-in-stimulus-package-coronavirus-149282
the only way I would consider one would be to Antartica. Perhaps Greenland. And even though Ive been to Cairo and Isreal I would consider taking one down the Nile. Otherwise F that I'll go and do my own thing.
