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We Were Warned!!!!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by T_Man, Mar 20, 2020.

  1. T_Man

    T_Man Member

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    https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...c-coronavirus-united-states-trump-cdc/608215/

    We Were Warned
    T_Man
     
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  2. Buck Turgidson

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    Huh? Of course we were. We've known something like this was coming for quite a while.

    Not sure what the point of this thread is.
     
  3. pirc1

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-outbreak.html

    They had a simulated test in 2019, guess agent orange does not believe the test results.

    Before Virus Outbreak, a Cascade of Warnings Went Unheeded
    Government exercises, including one last year, made clear that the U.S. was not ready for a pandemic like the coronavirus. But little was done.



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    The Department of Health and Human Services’ Covid-19 operations center in Washington. The department ran an extensive exercise last year simulating a pandemic.Credit...Al Drago for The New York Times
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    By David E. Sanger, Eric Lipton, Eileen Sullivan and Michael Crowley

    • March 19, 2020

    WASHINGTON — The outbreak of the respiratory virus began in China and was quickly spread around the world by air travelers, who ran high fevers. In the United States, it was first detected in Chicago, and 47 days later, the World Health Organization declared a pandemic. By then it was too late: 110 million Americans were expected to become ill, leading to 7.7 million hospitalized and 586,000 dead.

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    That scenario, code-named “Crimson Contagion” and imagining an influenza pandemic, was simulated by the Trump administration’s Department of Health and Human Services in a series of exercises that ran from last January to August.

    The simulation’s sobering results — contained in a draft report dated October 2019 that has not previously been reported — drove home just how underfunded, underprepared and uncoordinated the federal government would be for a life-or-death battle with a virus for which no treatment existed.

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    The draft report, marked “not to be disclosed,” laid out in stark detail repeated cases of “confusion” in the exercise. Federal agencies jockeyed over who was in charge. State officials and hospitals struggled to figure out what kind of equipment was stockpiled or available. Cities and states went their own ways on school closings.

    Many of the potentially deadly consequences of a failure to address the shortcomings are now playing out in all-too-real fashion across the country. And it was hardly the first warning for the nation’s leaders. Three times over the past four years the U.S. government, across two administrations, had grappled in depth with what a pandemic would look like, identifying likely shortcomings and in some cases recommending specific action.


    You can read the rest at the link.
     
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    Maybe information about the REAL TRUTH...

    T_Man
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

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    Hmmm.

    You're not counting letters and trying to add up to 13 or something, are you?
     
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    13, 14, 15 what difference does it make... He's still a liar...

    T_Man
     
  7. Buck Turgidson

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    I was just making a dumb joke about the "gramaktica" (or however you spell it) idiots.
     
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    Prevention doesn't have tangible costs or gains business leaders nor shareholders pay attention to.

    It's a cultural defect in many organisations

    Most people would rather be cheap and lucky. I think the assumption is that we overpay leaders to handle that burden of responsibility...
     
  9. El_Conquistador

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    The Democrats were too focused on impeachment and avoiding an investigation into Joe Biden's corruption in Ukraine to bother with dealing with a pandemic... Shame on them. Prioritizing political fights above the nation's interests.

    GOOD DAY
     
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    They are probably also spending too much time hiding the pizza gate too as we speak. Those bastards.

    Hey, so... this is a "pandemic" now? When did it start being a national interest of top priority in your strange world? You were implying the other day that this is not too bad, given relatively small number of ~200 deaths.
     
  11. Corrosion

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    The point is .... Orange man bad.


    Yes , we've known the threat was coming - eventually. It's happened countless times throughout human history and its only a matter of time before the next one.

    How do you prepare for it ? Build thousands of extra hospital spaces and associated gear to sit idle until its needed ? That's not happening in a capitalistic society.

    How do you stop its spread in a nation with such freedom of movement such as ours ? - Really you have to rely upon people to not be idiots - to take the thread seriously to reduce the spread.

    Honestly we might have been better off shutting the borders down from all international travel before we did .... and isolating any citizens returning from outside the country for the duration of the incubation period. But that's so counter to our societal norms - we come and go as we please - that its hard for government to justify / enact and for citizens to accept.

    Now we're instead of locked in our country in relative safety , we're locked inside our homes staying away from damn near all contact with others.

    The biggest issue is keeping supply chains of food and other essentials open so people aren't in panic mode while not exposing those involved to the virus. If we can't do that then we're going to have real problems .... This is a big negative to a society so far removed from its food sources.
     
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    With all that being said why didn't so call mr.make America great again do something to make sure that America was ready for what was coming.
     
  14. pirc1

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    He is making America great again, you cannot see it?
    LoL
     
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    LOL nope haven't seen it yet even Stevie wonder can see he's not .
     

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