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To have lost some many big leads you had to have built big leads.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DearRock, Mar 23, 2004.

  1. DearRock

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    Increasingly I am resigned to the fact that we will be only the #7 seed while up until recently a #4 seed was available and we certainly did not play to take advantage of that opportunity. However, having gotten pass that we have to then ask how ready is the team for competing in the playoffs? At this point only time will tell but there are some positive things that give us hope, one of which, is that we have shown the ability to build leads against the best in the west. That must be worth something and I feel like we have not sufficiently appreciated that.

    To me it should be no surprise that we build leads since our strengths suggest that we should be able to. Specifically, strengths like defense and low post scoring with timely 3-point shooting, and rebounding will all typically put us in a position to win. I guess the trick would be to find a way to build and maintain leads. Turnover reduction and smarter play would go a long way towards maintaining leads. It is not like we have not shown the ability yet to persevere since we did it against Dallas, Minn on two occasions, Lakers on two occasions and against Memphis.
     
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    Codell - 2

    Dear Rock - 0

    :D

    How about triple or nothing??? I could own your signature for the rest of your life.
     
  3. DearRock

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    Codell, I put it at 1-0 as I am sure you can see this year should be voided just based on EG.

    Having said that I think the team is closer to my expectation than yours. I believe the team is closer to contending status than you believed. I am not sure how you feel at this point but to me, this team could be like the Rocket 86 team that went to the finals beating the great Laker team to get there. That team was not slated to go to the finals but was able to put their dominance (Twin Towers) to work in the playoffs. Could it happen this year? It would not surprise me.
     
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    Although it is not a certainty, it is quite possible that Dall, Memphis and Houston are tied by sunday night. One cannot be certain because of Houston's inconsistent play. If we were going to get last night's play, I would like our chances to be practically tied with Dall and Memphis by sunday night. The playoffs have indeed started.
     
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    Uh, I don't think so. That was clearly addressed in our bet. I made it clear that if EG missed games for reasons other than an injury, that the bet was still in effect.

    Don't be a weasel. Pay up.

    I predicted a 6th or 7th seed I believe, which we will be. How is your expectation closer than mine?? lol
     
  6. DearRock

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    How much sense it makes to void the bet for EG missing games because of injury but not void it because he was actually cut. At this time of the bet, EG being cut was not even a consideration. Any reasonable thinking person would see that the team has been adversely affected by his absence. I did pay up on YR1 or I am willing to.

    I do not recall your actual projection but I do recall you saying they are a few years away from contending and I said why not contend this year. Are we contending this year? I would say we are close and ultimately it depends on what we do in the playoffs.
     
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    Because you accepted that as a condition of the bet.

    Here, let me remind you:

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67131&perpage=30&pagenumber=2

    "15 games, injury only"

    You accepted the bet right after I put that stipulation in.

    Again, be a man. Don't be a weasel.
     
  8. DearRock

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    I did not say I did not agree. I asked if it made sense, or was fair, to void such a bet based on time lost to injury but not void it because someone who would have reasonably be relied upon was eventually cut, for non-basketball reasons?
     
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    It was fair. Absolutely. Because you accepted those conditions!!

    The sad thing is, you a) refused to see the writing on the wall, in that EG was as good as gone and b) then critisized CD and Rocket management for releasing him, even though it turned out they 100%, without a doubt, made the right decision.

    So I own your sig for two years then right??? ;)
     
  10. DearRock

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    If you think that I placed no reliance on EG, you are dead wrong and my unfair criticism of CD and JVG is further proof. Plus you know how I feel about MoT and his ability to play the better PF's. So I must have some reliance on EG. At the time there was no way of knowing he would shoot at a woman and so on and so on. At best, you should accept my sig for one year.
     
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    So is this the codell vs DearRock thread, or can i join too?
     
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    Do you two want to be left alone?
     
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    At worst, I should accept your sig for TWO years, since that was the bet. Especially since the stipulations were outlined clearly. It was clear that EG's missed games were for injury only. You accepted.

    Your sig is mine for two years. If you don't pay up on your wager, then you are a weasel and you have no honor.
     
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    damn this thread is hard to read due to the ignore list and all

    huh wasn't JVG going to save us from the devil Rudy ......... dearock
     
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    can i bet on this although i suspect i will have give good odds to get anyone to bet against it;)

    let me get this straight...... you thought the rockets would finish ahead of the spurs last year..... clearly wrong...... and then this year under the savior JVG you thought we would make the top4....... well that isn't happening either...... so two wrongs makes2 years worth of signatures for Codell.... take your punishment with honour.... and you knows with thinking like that your sigs might be better

    pay the man Dearrock... you lost
     
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    gotta respectfully agree with the man from down unda...

    You have made outrageous statements and then decided to accept a bet when called on them...

    and for two years straight...you have lost.(dont see us going undefeated for that #4 this year)

    Dont be a wuss...payup.
     
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    I don't even want your sig for one year now since you have no **** and won't pay up on your wager.

    Instead, I'll honor you in my own sig for the next two years.

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  19. DearRock

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    It is really unfortunate that you would react that way. For the most part I believe we conducted this thing over the 2year period fairly despite our many heated exchanges. I do not recall it getting personal. So you should resist going personal. Anyway it is up to you if you want to honor me in your sig in that fashion.
     
  20. SamFisher

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    Dearrock, there's no retroactive renegotiation; you choose and you lose, so you need to pay the piper.

    Give the man two years...maybe he'll get sick of it after one and let you off for good behavior.
     

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