100% agree with this. Biden is the perfect candidate to face Trump, but he likely wouldn't be in the mix at all against a more "normal" Republican.
Thanks for the reply. I hope and think you realize that many of today's Democrats, including Biden, don't fit in to the party you described above. He tries to sell the people on that image yet his record simply doesn't reflect that. But whether really your memories, or implanted, this is the type of emotional appeal that will be needed to bring people together to vote for Joe. This election isn't going to be a choice of the lesser of two "evils" as has been the case in past elections. It is genuinely a choice of evil (Trump) vs. so-so (Biden).
Evil has to lose. While I’m not religious, trump is the definition of the word. Biden would be a vast improvement, regardless of his flaws. The country desperately needs trump out of office. He’s already done damage that we will still be trying to repair long after both trump and Biden are gone. We need to be able to roll up our sleeves and get to work. The election in 2018 was a start, but only a start. The real work begins with a win in November and trump out of office in January.
I didn't really intend those two paragraphs to be connected ideas. They were totally separate. But, now that you mention it, I see the connection -- which is the other side of the policy/electability coin you mention. I think there is some subpopulation among Democrats that never really liked the sweeping policy proposals from the Sanders/Warren wing but were considering supporting them anyway because of their fear of the moderates' electability. The moderates had no energy or momentum. Then, with the South Carolina win and the drop-outs from other moderates, suddenly Biden had a ton of excitement. Then with a big sigh of relief come Super Tuesday they saw they didn't need to sign on with a policy platform they didn't like in order to have their best shot at winning. So it could well be that those two ideas are connected and developed in the mere hours before the election when it finally seemed possible -- reject Sanders' policy ideas and make the low-risk choice for electability in one fell swoop.
If you would have taken a second to read through my post history, you'd know that I'm not angered about Bernie not winning, I'm angered about the whole process getting us to the point where we have a late 70s white male republican leader, two late 70s white male democratic challengers, and late 70s white leaders of the senate, etc. I don't respect the opinions of people that are not informed or engaged in any way. This, unfortunately, is the majority of voters. They're voting based on which candidate they just kind of like better. They're not making educated guesses on anything. To the extent they have any knowledge, it's been passed on via (i) mainstream media, or (ii) social media. Both sources are rife with misinformation. CNN on occasion after occasion would leave candidates completely out of its infographics. Fox has their obvious bent. And of course social media is kind of a cesspool of made up ****. This may sound condescending... but its not meant to be. If you're not engaged and properly informed, pointing that out isn't an insult. It's just what it is. So that when that not super well-informed person votes for Biden because they think (i) Bernie is a socialist and (ii) Biden has the best/only real shot to beat Trump (despite tons of other polling that says otherwise), I'm not going to respect that opinion... why would I?
The condescending part is implying that people who made the decision to vote for Biden are not educated or well-informed. It could be that they are very well informed and just came to a different conclusion than you. It may be that the more educated ones recognize that the self-appointed socialist label is not a winning strategy. It may be more informed ones recognize the impossibility of some of Bernie plans. It may be that less educated ones rally to calls for "revolution" without understanding the processes and concensus needed to pass bills and get things done. The entire Bernie campaign has proven uneducated in the basic concept of the coalition building necessary to win a primary election. Maybe his voters are similarly ill-informed.
Bloomberg will win the election for the Democrats. Look at what he did with one month an $500 million. Trump doesn't stand a chance.
This all collapses when you see that well informed people also flocked to Biden over Bernie. Women, well educated women that powered 2018 victories, do not really like him. Frankly the best way to avoid the process of the same oldsters hogging power would be if they just left the scene, a la Chris Matthews. I think the biggest disservice Bernie did to his Revolution vwas squandering it on another longshotish presidential bid where it seems increasingly clear he has made almost no incremental progress from 2016 in terms of diversifying his coalition.
To me this isn't just a black and white thing. The majority of ALL voters are low-information voters. Black, white, or otherwise. And seemingly, age had more of a factor in voting preference than race. Bernie actually beat Biden for black voters under the age of 30 in South Carolina, but Biden won 75% of the vote for those over 60. That's partly why other minority groups went the other way... even though they are similarly impacted. Cause Southern black voters skew older. And the young voters are also low information voters, generally. Again, most are, imo. Never mind that while polls are a bit all over the place, before last night, I saw just as many if not more polls showing Bernie or Warren or even Bloomberg as having a better chance to beat Trump than Biden. But the narrative has been Sanders/Warren too liberal to beat Trump and for whatever reason Biden is the best contender... which again the polls didn't back up. Though they probably will move forwards... which is part of my point... its self fulfilling But I certainly understand the initial pushback as some might have assumed I was saying low information voters to imply low IQ voters, and to imply that of southern blacks... which I wasn't trying to imply.
biden supporters who ARE informed are even worse than the blind voters. That means you have the facts and are somehow still stupid enough to be backing him "Bernie's plan is too hard! Lets vote for someone who has no plans instead and no chance of winning anyways"
Bernie's plan is slogan, slogan, plurality, revolution ???? Rinse and repeat. There's literally a candidate that had a plan for that, you're too busy launching silly jibes to even me tion it. This btw is why Bernie was never able to cement his fleeting front-runner status. Get a plurality of the same base and insult everyone else until they submit. The Trump plan doesn't work here.
Well it was months of "lock him up" and Burisma Holdings....... or it was "socialist!", "Why do you talk about kids touching other kids genitals and tying women up"..... and why did you compare labor disputes as being like black slavery in the USA. So take your pick.
Yea no. Bernie was the only candidate left that actually had legitimate and consistent policies. Good try though lmao
Exactly Trump's tactics are well known. The difference is Biden is a bumbling idiot who can't hang while Bernie is sharp as a tack and has clear razor sharp policy to arm himself with. I'm telling you Biden will be made to look like the fool he is versus Trump. I really think Bernie would make both Biden and Trump look like morons.
