Parent makes racist remark at school meeting about racism

He did it in a public forum, so why would he expect privacy on the matter? At some point, you need blatant racist examples to present as evidence of what's happening on a day to day basis to minorities. It's not like the statements were shocking or novel, but the lack of awareness is what stands out.

If you present numbers that these incidents have gone up 10%, but no concrete examples of what those might be, does anyone care?
The victim's would just be faceless as well as the offender.

 

I think some of this disagreement is just about the different ways people learn. Been having this argument with a friend, a very relational kind of person, who says anecdotes are how people learn. And that's probably true for some people. But I despise anecdotes. I won't read a self-help book because they are 10 pages of content and 190 pages of anecdote. Some people say anecdotes make ideas relatable or real. I think they're misleading and manipulative.

Which is not to say I'm not learning anything anecdotally. But I think the strength and worth of anecdotes are in robustness. When you collect a thousand of them, you can see the pattern. I know about the everyday discrimination minorities face because I've heard a thousand stories. No single one particularly stands out, but they each corroborate the others. I can throw this one on the pile. But I don't think its useful to hold one up and say 'look at this guy, the pernicious white nationalism promoted by Trump personified!' You're trying to draw a line with one dot.

But I get you, and Sweet may be the same. This guy is a person and not a number and that matters to you. Maybe I'm a jerk, but I don't care about victims and perpetrators, I care that there are victims and perpetrators. What makes it real for me are numbers. But others will care more when it has a face. (Focusing on the victim is one thing, but I still think it's a mistake to name and shame the perpetrator. I think internet shaming of private citizens is immoral.)

 

Let's make this a 50 page thread.

 

Just so you know, the article is wrong. Mexico isn't a race. There are many races in the nation of Mexico, and it's very racist to ignore their individuality and their races and just assume they're all the same.

 

I can’t explain things but that mean, you meanie!

 

It's not racist. That word isn't a toy you know. You can't just use it whenever you feel like or it loses meaning. Case and point above.

 

oh, you mean like that time you asked for examples of trump saying racist things and when i posted a bunch of them your response was to call ME a racist.

 

This doesn't exist because of Trump. Racist are EMBOLDEN because of Trump. You have seen it in the white nationalist and Neo-nazi groups. He embraces them. Bigots think it is ok to express their TRUE feeling in Trump's America. GOOD FOR THEM! Now we know who they are and how the truly feel.

 

Well, you probably did say something that was racist. Most leftists, which I assume you are, are often hyper racial in their thought process. So much so that is bleeds through in their words because they can't help but put forth racist notions. If that's literally an obsession for you, and some of the other posters, then yeah. I doubt you are some race hating ******* though, but maybe you said something racist or put forward an idea that I think is essentially racist... but that is an opinion and opinions are like assholes right? Sorry if I offended you mate. I really don't want you stewing about it so consider this a real apology. Very sorry and let's move on.

 

That's not true and I would like solid evidence of that claim. I don't see how people are emboldened by a guy who is just pro America. How is that racist? I think you want him to be racist because you have a bias and you are pushing a false narrative that the DNC has put out through it's media minions. Stop spreading BS. Racists are actually cast out of society and depersoned and de platformed, and I see people who are NOT RACIST get accused of this and their lives are ruined. So yeah I doubt anyone is emboldened to be racist nor do I think he is "bringing it back" or some other nonsense. Yall are part of a ridiculous moral panic and everyone will look back at this era like the burning times or satanic panic, and wonder how people got to be so paranoid about race and obsessed. You are the same type of busy body who went after rock music and suited up on sunday and pretended to believe in God for social points 20 years ago. You moralists need a life.

 

Yeah that was a good video by the way. Want some more? I don't buy into guilt by association and if a damn nazi made a good video, then he made a good video. It doesn't mean I support all of their views, you idiot. But guilt by association is a cheap trick and cheap tricks is literally all you know. Your playbook is to have a feeling, argue that feeling, then when someone disagrees you call them racist and if they still argue, you use guilt by association to try and win an argument because your feelings and sense of superiority are far more important than reality. You don't know what racism even is, and yet you make the most claims about it on this message board. You seriously don't even know what it means. Pathetic. I consider your cheap trick a sign of not actually having a real argument, and and L for you on this one. Nice try old friend.

 

Dude, have you not being paying attention? Hate crime is up. You had kids in schools chanting “Build the Wall”. Whites who are Trump supporters have been convinced by Republicans for years that Black, Brown and immigrants are the root of all their problems. Thats why Trump rallies have looked look like Klan rallies. Are all these people hardcore racist? NO. They have been sold a bill of goods that all there problems will be solved by following a hate monger. Many have seen that Trump is a con man, but many still are drinking the Kool-aid.

LOL...um the RNC and Faux do nothing but promote the hate. I see you gulped the koolaid.

 

Bro... he used Trump's own words. Trump has said that exact sentence at least twice that I know of and no one batted an eye!

 

lol. you didnt offend me. you just made yourself look like an idiot. thats all.

you said that there is no proof of trump saying or doing racist things. i posted a dozen of them and your response was to call me a racist and a lunatic. you have been shown proof of trump saying racist things for years now and you keep mindlessly repeating the lie that there is no evidence of him being racist.

you are a full-on cult member comrade.

you are also totally ignorant as evidenced by your claim that beto was the mayor of el paso.

 

Your attempt at being pedantic is so hilarious.

"Mexico isn't a race". Guess what, the type of people who say "go back to Mexico" aren't attempting be pedantic like you. They don't think" Mexico has a diverse subsection of races" when they say "go back to Mexico". What they are thinking is "They are not the standard tradional concept of what I deem as American which is white Christian and therefore I will never accept them fully as American and therefore whenever they criticize issues within America, I'll remind them that they aren't American". Trust me, I've had similar rhetoric thrown at me. I've been told to "go back home if you don't like it here" when I was born and raised here and served for this country but hey I got brown skin so I must not be a genuine American.

Bigots and racists only see ethnically non white American citizens as "American" only when that ethnic minority agrees lock step with their worldview. Again, those bigots will never tell a white Christian who disagrees with their wold view to go back to where they came from because they have inherent racist tendencies where they need extra criteria to deem a non-white ethnic minority as American.

The individual also said "white people don't feel safe in black neighborhoods" as a defense of his claims which also shows his disdain for African Americans and completely ignoring the context behind why modern urban African American cities are poor and are rife with gangs. In fact, it's quite disgusting because his quote implies that it's the fault of poor African Americans in urban ghettos rather than the 300 years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow and Black Codes that force funneled African Americans into having less opportunities and having an inherent disadvantage in attempting to obtain quality education and having a foothold in land and home ownership. He also implies with that statement that 400 years of abject institutionalized racism wouldn't create ant sense of distrust amongst the African American community which is such an unrealistic naive take.

And on Trump, there are plenty of examples that don't require "guilt by association" when it comes to Trump's open bigotry and racism. When he tweeted an infographic created by a self labeled white supremacist group that had false data that claimed that 81 percent of white murders came at the hands of black people, that is a clear abject example of his racism or at the very least pandering to racists.

Him claiming that Mexico sends murders and rapists and SOME possibly are good people implies that he believes majority of Mexican Americans and immigrants are violent rapists and that maybe some are good people. It's obvious diction that implies he believes majority of Mexican immigrants are rapists and murderers which God help me, I hope you believe is no where near reality but knowing you, you'll try to justify it. Now we can play pedantic games and you can say "Mexican isn't a race". By all means, don't call him a racist even though you and I well know when Trump referring to Mexicans, in his mind, he's referring to a ethnicity. But to be safe, how about we just call it bigotry which envelops race, nationality and religion.

Keep in mind you are trying to defend a man as not a bigot/racist who was the first major presidential candidate in American history who explicitly called for the complete shut down of a entire religious group from immigrating into this country and only failed at his campaign promise because every swinging dick knows that that **** wouldn't fly in our federal court system so he had to water it down to make it appear that his intent is is based on nationality rather than religon.



And if you are not comfortable calling Trump a racist over his rhetoric on Muslims such as falsely claiming that "thousands upon thousands" of Muslims celebrated 9/11 in the streets of Jersey City because "Islam isn't a race", then call him a bigot.