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A Hero Returns

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RocketMan Tex, Mar 16, 2004.

  1. RocketMan Tex

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    http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/03/16/blix.back.ap/index.html

    Vindicated Blix returns to U.S.

    Former weapons inspector receives hero's welcome
    Tuesday, March 16, 2004 Posted: 7:37 AM EST (1237 GMT)


    NEW YORK (AP) -- President Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair have lost credibility, the world is not safer now that Saddam Hussein is out of power and it was clear 10 months ago that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, according to Hans Blix, the former U.N. weapons inspector who returned to New York on the one-year anniversary of the war.

    Blix, who was often vilified by supporters and opponents of an invasion in the run-up to the Iraq war, left his post at the United Nations last June at a time when many held out hope that biological, chemical or even nuclear weapons could be found by U.S. troops in Iraq.

    But dozens of search teams over the last year have came up empty handed and much of the initial resources devoted to the hunt have since been reallocated.

    In an address Monday at New York University, Blix said the United States should have known months ago that there were no weapons to be found.

    "By May I knew there was nothing because the Americans had interrogated so many Iraqis by then and even offered money and still they found nothing."

    On a speaking tour for his new book "Disarming Iraq," Blix offered some tough assessments of American accomplishments in Iraq and suggested that the United States was motivated to go to war because of the attacks of September 11, 2001.

    "It was a reaction to 9/11 that we have to strike some theoretical, hypothetical links between Saddam Hussein and the terrorists. That was wrong. There wasn't anything," he said in an interview with NBC's "Today" show.

    And he disagreed that the war had made the world a safer place.

    "Sorry to say it doesn't look that way. If the message was to terrorists that we are willing to take you on, then that has not succeeded. In Iraq, it has bred a lot of terrorism and a lot of hatred to the Western world," he told an audience of 1,200 at NYU.

    "Disarmament by war and democracy by occupation are difficult prospects."

    He was especially critical of the United States and Britain for claiming the war was meant to uphold U.N. resolutions when the rest of the Security Council refused to back the conflict and he said Bush and Blair "oversold" what they knew.

    "The moral of this story was clearly a loss of credibility for the leaders of this war and that they didn't think the council mattered, that was a mistake," Blix said.

    Referring to passages from his book, the 75-year-old Swede identified Vice President Dick Cheney as his No. 1 opponent inside the Bush administration.

    In a meeting with Mr. Cheney in October 2002, Blix said he was told the United States 'was ready to discredit inspections in favor of disarmament,' unless Blix's teams were able to find weapons the White House insisted were in Iraq.

    Blix's return to the United States, after nine months in Sweden working on the book, was triumphant compared to his quiet departure last June, which was marred by a U.S. refusal to let his inspectors back into Iraq.

    Blix spent Monday appearing on TV talk shows and signing copies of his book, which came out this week in the United States.

    At NYU, he was introduced by faculty members as a "real-life hero," "unbiased and critical," and his comments drew rounds of thunderous applause during his two hour appearance.

    It was a striking contrast to the contentious appearances he made in the U.N. Security Council in the months leading up to the war. At that time, he was often criticized as pro-Iraqi or anti-American because his teams were coming up empty and refusing to blame Saddam for their failures.

    Blix said he had been convinced for years that the Iraqis were hiding weapons of mass destruction but began having doubts when intelligence provided by the United States and other countries wasn't producing results. He blamed an over-reliance on defectors and a refusal on the part of the White House to consider the possibility that the intelligence was wrong.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    A hero....

    Come on now Tex, that is like saying Steve Francis is a good point guard.

    SHEESH !

    DD
     
  3. mc mark

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    after last night's game I'd have to agree with DD here.
     
  4. RocketMan Tex

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    Just following the headline on CNN. And I agree with you about Franchise!
     
  5. rrj_gamz

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    Hero my arse...

    :rolleyes:
     
  6. RocketMan Tex

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    Yeah. No hero. Just someone who told the truth, for a change. :rolleyes:
     
  7. rrj_gamz

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    Typical Liberal response...:rolleyes:
     
  8. Deckard

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    Typical knee-jerk, right-wing Conservative roll-eyes.
     
  9. bamaslammer

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    If Hans Blix is a hero, my opinion of the term hero has sunk to nothing.
     
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    Yeah he's not a hero. It's true that he was correct in all he did in regards to inspecting Iraq, and those that tried to villify him offer up zero evidence to the contrary, but he's not a hero.
     
  11. meh

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    I just can't see how his actions make him heroic. Here's a guy who stayed true to his words despite opposition, and is now a vindicated man. I very much respect Blix for what he did and as a person. The word that comes to mind that describes him could be bravery, honorable, respect. But not "heroic". Then again, maybe I just have a stricter guidelines for heroism.
     
  12. giddyup

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    I thought this was the Jessica Lynch thread.
     
  13. outlaw

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    yeah you have to have an action figure to be called a hero.
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  14. moestavern19

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    I'll throw him a hero's welcome if my parents hire him to find my pr0n stash.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Because you know it would be safe from discovery with Trix Blix on the job.

    You might as well hire Plankton to protect the Crabby paddy.

    DD
     
  16. rimbaud

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    Then I guess the US military couldn't find Moe's p*rn stash, either?
     
  17. moestavern19

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    Sure, Because I don't leave it in the middle of my floor.
     
  18. RocketMan Tex

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    Yep, you leave it in the spider hole you dug in your mattress!:eek: ;)
     
  19. GladiatoRowdy

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    Wow. The guy has been totally vindicated as far as his views on WMDs in Iraq. What he was saying all along was the case has turned out to be... the case, and y'all continue to vilify him regarding his ability?

    You people are seriously deluded. I don't know if he should be called a HERO, but he found more WMDs and components than THE ENTIRE US MILITARY HAS WITH COMPLETE CONTROL OF IRAQ!!! Not only that, but he was honest with the public, didn't overestimate or massage intelligence, and gave everyone the straight skinny on Iraq's WMDs.

    All of this and some of you can't even admit that GWB and Co. overstated or exaggerated their "intelligence" before the war.

    Talk about selective perception.
     

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