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Kayman's wife: Yao vs. Amare

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Kayman, Mar 16, 2004.

  1. Kayman

    Kayman Contributing Member

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    Since we are sharing wives' comments, I thought my wife's reactions could be interesting to some people as well.

    She is a die-hard Rockets fan but doesn't follow the games too closely. Yesterday was a fun game to wacth and she got caught into it.

    When Amare dunked on Yao and then yelled, she got really angry: "Who is this guy thinking he is?" Tnen Steve puts his forearm in Amare's throat: "Ohhhh, he came in Yao's defense, that's soooo sweet! Good job Stevie!". From then on Amare was thoroughly villified, and every miss was greeted with satisfactory cheereing... until I explained to her who Amare Stoudamire is, how his whole family is either in prison, or has had other problems with the law, yet he managed to go through life without even being arrested once and how he persevered, got a shot at the NBA and made the best of it.

    She thought a little bit and then said: " Now, I love the guy! Yao has it so much easier with his Mommy and Daddy always besides him, plus all the fanfare and celebrity..."

    Granted we, men, are usually idiots when it comes to sports, but womens perspectives can be quite funny too.

    What Kayman thinks is that these two guys, together with Melo and Bron are going to be the best of their generation. It is going to be a fun rivalry for years to come.

    As for Steve Francis, the incident showed exactly his biggest weakness: the guy is too hot headed. JVG needs to find some way to fix his head: yoga, meditation, Zen, whatever. He gets caught in nonsense like this and it really hurts his game. Remember, Dream was like that too. Only after recomitting to Islam did he become truly great.
     
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    I don't have a problem with Francis throwing an elbow to Amare after that indicient. I am surprised that Cato didn't do that himself. It would be much more powerful.
     
  3. Willis25

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    that is siminlar to my point in a previous post. SF3 has no busienss getting invovled in that - that's what we have GOONS for (to borrow a term from the NHL)

    Steve Francis and Michael Finley need to go to LA for a few days and mediate with Phillip Jackson
     
  4. Willis25

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    ... and let Cato and Najara worry about getting their teammates' backs
     
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    Agreed, but glad Franchise did it...Unfortunately it didn't help jump start the Rox...
     
  6. GrEgOnOmIcS

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    How does steve stepping up for his teammate warrant an attack on him?
     
  7. wwasser

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    Reminded me of an article I read a couple of years ago --- in CA, some highschool advisors were practically advising the students that if your parents are good citizens you are at a disadvantage when applying for colleges (you didn't go through all those troubles so you are not likely to be strong on your own). Something weird ...
     
  8. win2k

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    I totally agree with you. Where is Cato at that time?
     
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    Some of players really need to concetrate on the game, worry less about getting calls. That's coach's job. Pull you ass back when you missed, and set up defensively. Get the f*** out when opponent makes basket. Dont just stand there whining.
     
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    This is just an ignorant comment, no offense bro, but you put it on here so I'm gonna comment on it. Why dont you try moving to some place where there is some sort of resentment towards Americans like say France or Germany and try to learn a whole new language while being in their media spotlight form day one. I doubt your wife will think that Yao had it easy compared to Amare. And since when the hell do we give awards for staying out of prison? You're supposed to do that, should Amare get a cookie for that? What he want next? A trophy for being able to speak English? How about a pat on the back everytime he manages to drive without getting a speeding ticket. Stop giving people props for simple things that they supposed to do to funciton as a member of our society. ooh he stayed out of jail, gimme a break
     
  11. KeepKenny

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    There shouldn't have been any retaliation at all. What did the suns do every time we made a basket? They pushed the ball up the court like hell and got either a layup, foul, or 3. If AS wants to stand there and yell, push the dang ball up the court. Make him stop celebrating and play some defense.
     
  12. J DIDDY

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    THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!. :) :) I am so sick of how everyone is saying how bad amare got it and whatever. He was treated like a rock star compared to Yao, who got dissed by all the media. Some of u people are treating him like he is a "misunderstood child". Why dont u give the same consideration to Mike Tyson. :rolleyes:
     
  13. hotballa

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    LOL That is a great comparion. Amare is Mike Tyson (whose career I followed, and backstory am familiar with BTW). HAHA that's going in my sig if you dont mind.

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    Amare Stoudemire is Mike Tyson.
     
  14. DreamWeaver

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    I may not like AS but nobody deserves to be like Mike Tyson.

    Not even Mike Tyson and I don't mean that as a joke.
     
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    Well I dunno DW, let's look at the comparions. Both come form a broken family, cept Mike had it far worse than Amare who at least had his mommy. When Mike boxes, he bull rushes, without any idea of how to use subtle things like jabs or setting up his man. His main line of attack is to attack and weather anything the other guy can throw at him. Amare's game is also a bull rush, he don't go left, doesn't have subtle little things like mid jumper. Plus, he don't really think too much opn the defensive or offensive end, he just responds atheltically if he's in the vincinity of the ball, and always looking for that dunk like how Mike looks for that knockout punch. Sounds about right to me
     
  16. DreamWeaver

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    Hotballa, I don't disagree there might be some similarities in their background but Mike Tyson is the symptom of our dysfunctional society. I don't wish Mike's fate on AS as much as I dislike him.
     
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    DW,

    I dont wanna turn this into a Mike Tyson thread, but I've followed his career for several years and trust me he's had it far worse than Amare. First of all, the guy is simply not that intelligent, he's been taken advantage of by every signle female he's ever met, and I wont even get into the Desiree Washington situation. He's gullible, and been swindled by Don King out of practially 100-200 million bux. Every person in the world tries to make a buck off this guy. He's been cheated, swindled, abused, and taken advantage of. All this and he is mentally not up to par with the average American. Mike Tyson has done a lot of stupid things, but I sympathize with him. But you're right what has happend to him I wouldnt wish on anyone
     
  18. DreamWeaver

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    Exactly, hotballa. Mike Tyson, for all his prowess in the ring, would be considered mentally r****ded if his school district ever bothered to assess him.

    As for AS, I am no saint. I may not want him to be like Mike Tyson but I pray that he breaks his leg next time he goes up for a rebound. There is no crying in basketball. :D
     
  19. Kayman

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    Well, yeah, grown men are supposed to stay out of jail, but the thing is he was just a kid, and his life could have easily turned into sh@#$t. That's what the statistics at least show in situations like his. Kids need good parents and strong family to turn out good. Amare turned out a good kid all by himself, and that deserves props.
     
  20. hotballa

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    Kayman,

    I respect your opinion, but I think when you start giving people props for doing simple things like not going to jail, you're unintentioanlly lowering the standards by which they live. I respect Amare more for getting a job, and being good at it than for something like staying out of jail regardless of what his family situation, which by the way isn't nearly as bad as one might think. Accoridng to an ESPN magazine article a few years ago, he's had his mother with him and several "father-figure" types (read: moochers), so it isn't like he was by himself. FInancially, he was always taken care of by his "father figures"
     

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