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Mass shootings vs Red Hat meanies

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by LosPollosHermanos, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    I’ve edited my post out, perhaps @Realjad has a point. While I still don’t understand why none of the folks, including him are capable of calling the president and his divisive tactics out...I don’t have to get on their level.

    I hope that they can rise above politics and call white terrorism out. White supremacy is a dangerous ideology and shouldn’t be taken lightly. A glance over the last century should be proof enough.

    I'm tired of these senseless acts. I'm tired of the fact that so many of us are numb to it. I hope that condemning each act and labeling it for what it is can help us move in the right direction. Not every american needs access to a bazooka. The conversation on gun control isn't about "they're trying to ban all guns!" Playing with these strawmen is only preventing us from tackling the real issue for another day.
     
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  2. foh

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    How about impeaching Trump simply for saying "fine people on both sides" thereby promoting hate and violence in a country that has long promoted and used its diversity and meritocracy as strength and competitive edge.

    I would expect mass shootings to be halved if hatred inducing race based fear mongering (ie xenophobia) was outlawed at highest political positions of the country (eg governor's, presidents, nominees to such).

    Japanese being put to internment camps comes to mind. I think it is reprehensible, personally and shouldn't have happened. Muslim ban that effected American citizens too.

    This manifesto dude basically states that Latinos are not Americans. Why? Do you not think that Trump's rhetoric that only rapists and ms13 drug cartels are coming over the boarder; supporting people chanting "blood and soil" effected this thinking?

    Personally I'll keep 2nd amendment over 1st amendment being updated with some sort of legal prejudice against executive branch. We have both of those amendments for power to stay with the people, so limiting free speech in government (already done via some laws) is fine I think
     
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  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    MAGA only care when their kind is killed. It's open season on brown people and liberals.
     
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    I guarantee you that since a few of the murdered were “technically” Mexican nationals that these deplorable Fu$& sticks are all high fiving right now. This is the bed they have been making for themselves for years.

    Just a terrible situation and I fear that it’ll only get worse. The people responsible won’t condemn, will act feckless, and this will happen again because...4chan memes and owning the libs on the internet is just too Cathartic.
     
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    Red hatters are only reserving the right to shoot people and rebel. They can't vouch for the crazy ones.

    That wouldn't be sane or rational!
     
  6. rocketsjudoka

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    The Second Amendment doesn't prevent registration, regulation, and certainly doesn't prevent things like universal background checks. This was reaffirmed by USSC Heller decision by Scalia.
     
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  7. fchowd0311

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    The vast majority of MAGA hat wearers do it for attention seeking purposes. Hence why the moment someone makes a offhand remark about their hat, they shove their smartphone camera into the face of the Individual who makes the off hand remark trying to instigate a physical confrontation.
     
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  8. Realjad

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    Your stereotyping game is disgusting

    The Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock was not 'MAGA'

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    Orlando Nightclub shooter Omar Mateen was a registered democrat

    That list goes on, basically what I'm saying is the ratio is not nearly as dramatic as you are indicating in your post. I can stereotype just like you but even better, look: Individuals whom are registered democrats residing in democratic strongholds such as Chicago and Baltimore lead the pack in gun violence/homicides. Why is Trump the only one seemingly publicly calling out these problems? Why do democrats keep shooting themselves on their home turfs?Democrats must be extremely dangerous sick in the head violent creatures ect ect ect blah blah blah

    All you are is a hate promoter dude, a complete divider.
     
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    You do know your game of merely listing an opposite example falls apart when we actually dove into data and frequency of types of ideologically driven mass murders in the US right?

    Also Islamic extremists hate all Americans, Democrat, Republican, Barack Obama, Mitt Romney etc. White nationalist terrorist praise Trump for often "telling it like it is" and often criticize him for not doing enough if there is any criticism. Islamic terrorists aren't praising Obama and they definitely are not telling him he isn't doing enough for Islamic extremist causes because they think he is diametrically opposed to Islamic extremist causes. Do you think white white nationalist terrorists believe Trump is diametrically opposed to their ideology?
     
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    I've been busy and not posting a lot around here and I can't believe someone is pathetic enough to target me in a thread to push their agenda and their politics. Oh wait they are. These poor people's bodies aren't even warm yet you're loading them into a gun as political ammunition. OP is disgusting and all or you supporting such tactics are as well.

    I condemn violence such as this and you're brainless to suggest anything else. You know where you can take this post and you know where you can put it.
     
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    The example that democratic cities are the most dangerous and if you pick the year, pretty much any given year firearm murders are committed by democrats at around a 60-70% clip compared to other political affiliations?

    For the threat post to point to one group and stereotype is disgusting. We're all Americans and there is nothing wrong with people wanting to be MAGA. It's sad that a MAGA hate is looked on by other Americans as some sort of hate symbol- we're all Americans.
     
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    Gun violence in urban cities has nothing to do with brainwashed ideologies. It has to do with poverty from 400 years of context resulting in people being involved in illicit black market dealings that often are self contained in their local communities. You aren't afraid of gang violence going to your local Walmart.
     
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  13. Realjad

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    The brainwashed ideology I was pointing out was the thread starters in the feeble attempt to stereotype mass shooters as maga.

    Some of the worst shootings were absolutely not supporters of republicans or trump
     
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    Most domestic ideologically inspired mass shootings in the US come from white nationalists.

    Changing Rhetoric isn't going to solve gin violence in urban centers. Changing rhetoric from people with clout such as Trump might lessen the ideological drive of many of these psychopaths
     
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    Do your homework before stereotyping and pushing a societal stigma
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States
     
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    How many of these killings in liberal areas were inspired by an ideology coming from one person? False equivalency.
     
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    Almost all.
     
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    The republican response so far has been despicable...

     

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