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trump's nativist/racist tweets

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jul 14, 2019.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes, I'll post evidence. I'll do your research for you.

    First of all, McCarthy failed to make a plausible case against a single person. He made accusations but never succeeded in making a single case. That is horrible and unAmerican.
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/McCarthyism

    There were the attacks on the innocent Fred Fisher.

    We can also add that even if someone was actually a communist, that isn't a crime.
     
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    Little video about McCarthyism since some apparently need the education.
     
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    I don't think McCarthy had much to do with catching and/or convicting the Rosenberg's, apart from contributing to the Red Scare atmosphere. He might be the reason a lesser sentence would not do. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    You are correct. McCarthy was not the one who found, charged or prosecuted the Rosenbergs.
     
  6. leroy

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    Good lord. Are we really having to spend time on why McCarthyism was an enormous stain on the history of this country?
     
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    I'm sure we'll be debating why slavery is bad in another few months at this rate.
     
  8. Deckard

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    You are shockingly ignorant. Your hero is just like Senator Joe McCarthy, who you also admire.

    What's funny is that you are asking me if I know anything about history? Yes, that's a laugh. You know nothing about the ruination of the careers of a host of people in numerous fields who were "blacklisted" in their professions because they were falsely accused of being "a communist," or were members of the Communist Party at one time or another during their lives, something that, as @FranchiseBlade pointed out, wasn't against the law in this country and still isn't. Hysteria aimed at "the Reds" helped along by those like Joe McCarthy impacted, in one way or another, actors, screenwriters, directors, journalists, musicians, composers, and others, many very well known. Some of them?

    Dalton Trumbo, who wrote the screenplay for the films Roman Holiday, Spartacus, Exodus and many other films, spent years having to use a pseudonym on screen, with the producers and actors in those films having to take a chance that it wouldn't come out who he really was. Kirk Douglas, who produced and starred in Spartacus, famously used Trumbo to write the screenplay and helped break the "blacklist" by using Trumbo's real name in the credits.

    Other screenwriters, writers, musicians, composers, actors, directors, and playwrights? Lillian Hellman, Ring Lardner Jr., Ruth Gordon, Dashiell Hammett, writer of The Thin Man novels, who wrote two screenplays for sequels of the original film, and created the character brought to life by Humphrey Bogart in the film of Hammett's The Maltese Falcon, poet and novelist Langston Hughes, Dorothy Parker, Irwin Shaw, Orson Wells, Garson Kanin, Arthur Miller.

    More? Leonard Bernstein, Lee J. Cobb, Howard Da Silva, Howard Duff, José Ferrer, John Garfield, Will Geer, Judy Holliday, Lena Horne, Burl Ives, Sam Jaffe, Gypsy Rose Lee, Burgess Meredith, Henry Morgan, Zero Mostel, Edward G. Robinson, Pete Seeger, Artie Shaw, newsman Howard K. Smith. Those, and so many more who weren't as famous, but were impacted as badly, and sometimes worse.

    I seriously can't believe that we have here in this forum people who actually admire the late Senator Joe McCarthy, a disgraced politician who ruined so many lives. It's astonishing, and it takes a lot to astonish me these days.
     
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    Which of you guys has a "Pinochet did nothing wrong" t-shirt?
     
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    American Nazi George Rockwell Lincoln used to try and portray himself as a free speech advocate and an anticommunist activist. He loved McCarthy. And the modern far right loves GRL.

    As I've stated, for segments of the far right, communist and Jew used to be interchangeable terms.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    What the hell is going on when we have to have a debate to show Joe McCarthy and McCarthyism was a terrible thing? I would never imagine such a thing was real.

    I can't say it any plainer than this.

    If you are...
    1. Defending Joe McCarthy
    2. Telling racists from GoyTalk that the racism they recognize and applaud isn't really racism...

    Then you have taken the wrong side.
     
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    I don't claim to be able to educate you. But I do find it rather strange that because you have had so many experiences you have concluded that you have nothing to learn from someone you disagree with (who is not a lunatic). I certainly don't learn from those I agree with and would never say that about someone unless I had zero respect for them.

    You certainly didn't seem to get it when it comes to that poster before and I found it hypocritical. Certainly that's my opinion - and yes we do disagree more often than we seem to agree on many of these "nuanced" positions. So whether you "got it" those weeks back or not is just another thing we can disagree on.

    But the fact that we disagree is proof that there are those you can debate with (civilly) that you don't have to put on ignore.
     
  14. LosPollosHermanos

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    Why are the people that need actually need a history lesson @BruceAndre , mouthing off?

    If you can’t get simple facts correct and get most of your news from twitter you should sit out
     
  15. mick fry

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    Whatever you guys do don’t make an Erica Thomas thread please!
     
  16. Buck Turgidson

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    I'll get it started right after you start the Chip Roy thread. Deal?
     
  17. mick fry

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    How bout you start both? Btw I said please don’t.
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    I'd rather make fun of Louie Gohmert, personally, but I have a deep dislike for Roy, since he's my Rep in this ****ed up gerrymandered district.

    I mean, really, *this* ****ing guy?

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    This ****ing district?

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    Yeah, I have a whole lot in ****ing common with those assholes up and down the white side of the I-35 corridor.
     
  19. mick fry

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    I don’t know anything about him but he looks extremely white, Strike 1!
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    You know that's racist right?
     

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