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Dinosaurs!!!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MadMax, Feb 25, 2004.

  1. MadMax

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  2. Buck Turgidson

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    "God created the sun, the stars, the heavens and the earth, and then made Adam and Eve. The Bible never says nothing about dinosaurs. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them. Someone actually saw Adam and Eve. No one ever saw a Tyrannosaurus rex."

    What about dinosaur bones?

    "Made by man."

    -- Carl Everett

    I rest my case.
     
  3. SamFisher

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    OK wait, so this guy's thesis is that, since monsters/dragons/etc were depicted in ancient archaelogical sites, it discredits evolution, I guess because it implies that Dinosaurs were around as recently as the 17th century? (I guess therefore, eliminating the problem of geologic time and implying that the world was created by God in 7 days a few thousnad years ago, etc)

    Indeed, and since we have depictions of dinosaurs today, on the Discovery channel, Jurassic Park movies, and innummerable other media...is that evidence that dinosaurs walk the earth in 2004?
    Certainly not.
     
  4. MR. MEOWGI

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    http://www.smallwork.com/dlore.html


    Did you know ?
    The word typhoon comes from Typhon, the name of the fire breathing monster that served the Titans of Greek myth. .....And the word hurricane comes from Huracan the name of the winged serpent of the Caribbean. In stories worldwide, dragons control the weather and represent the mysteries of nature.

    The Dragon is a composite animal with hot and cold blooded features, so it is a symbol of the changing seasons. It is foremost a snake that rejuvenates its skin. Its bird wings give flight to the spirit. It has the mane of a horse and the fins of a fish. The beard is a sign of wisdom and the antlers are the emblem of royalty and renewal. The winged serpent unifies the 4 elements: it is born in the water, breathes fire, inhabits the air, and guards the earth's treasures.

    The Dragon is the most universal motif linked to humanity for 5,000 years. The word dragon comes from "derkesthai" (Greek: to glance dartingly) which, in a Hindu tradition, was the hungry look of the very first being when its fiery spirit was born out of the abyss of water. The Dragon's Eye symbol stands for the balance of love, power and wisdom. Triple triangles are associated with the Goddess and the nine Muses.

    Cultures the world over speak of dragons when explaining the creation of the earth. Tiamat, the Babylonian dragon, gives birth to the gods. The Egyptian Ureaus headdress stands for the serpent, " The Oldest of the Old," who existed before heaven and earth. The Aztecs have Quetzalcoatl, the feathered god of wind, and Coatilcue, the snakegoddess-earthmother. Greek myth tells of the rivers being formed by Typhon gouging the earth during its battle with Zeus.

    Composite creatures are most often the divinities of water sources, the "genius loci" or animating principle of rivers, lakes, and seas. Celtic lore has salmon-dragons and Bride, the serpent-goddess. French lore has the Dracs, Tarasque, Amphitere and Campchurch.

    Europe has the Amphisbaena, the Wyvern and Hippocampus. Australia has the Bunyip and Japan has the O-Gon-Cho. Some are like mermaid snake-humans such as the Naga in India, the Makara in Cambodia, the Lamia in Libya, and the Yamaga in Africa.


    The tail eating snake Uroboros, is the circle of life eating life, the World Stream, the Milky Way, (where Dragon images are involved in four constellations).

    The first Hexagram of the I Ching is "The Creative" - the ascending dragon. Taoists revere the dragon as the spirit of "The Way" who brings eternal changes and guards the flaming pearl of spiritual perfection.

    In China, Dragons are emblems of royalty, guardians of the spirits of the ancestors. Stories from China and Japan frequently connect them to pearls, the treasure of the ocean, the moon, and the pearl of heaven.

    Eastern traditions feature courtesies paid to Dragons such as the Indian story of Buddha who honors the Naga king and queen who reared him, and the story of the Zen priest who continued his devotion to the Dragon who turned into Kuanyin, the Goddess of Compassion. The Hindu Dragon goddess that sleeps in the lotus at the base of the spine is Kundalini the Coiled. When she is understood, she will climb to the forehead where illusion will fall from the inner eye to reveal the Golden Embryo of Life.

    In western lore the Dragon is a symbol of greed, a monster to be slain by a hero, such as the firedreake in the Scandinavian tale, Beowolf. The tales often mention veils and mirrors and both Joseph Campbell and Carl Jung describe these legends as metaphors for the battle against self doubt, the vanquishing of the shadows of the self, the triumph over one's own internal chaos. It is certain that Dragons are images of transformation. To read more about them, Melinda recommends her favorite from the library by Francis Huxley: The Dragon: Nature of Spirit, Spirit of Nature.
     
  5. Chump

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    I'm sorry, but if you believe that man and dinosaurs lived at the same time well then that is the kind of crazy that can't be cured.


    :)
     
  6. SWTsig

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    yeah, let's ignore science and theories we've basically proven to be true because some whackos want to take some book literally.

    "the world is only 10,000 years old."
    "how do you know?"
    "because the bible says so."

    yeah, okay......
     
  7. Dubious

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    Jimmy Fallon had a bit about the bible/dinosaur controversey.
    He said the new lable was 'Jesus Horses'.
     
  8. MadMax

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    i saw that...that was hysterical!!
     
  9. Batman Jones

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    Bill Hicks did this one best.

    "I got one question for you. It's a one word question. Dinosaurs."

    "We believe God put those there to test our faith."

    "Does this bother anyone else? The idea that God might be, you know, ****ing with us? 'Let's see who believes in me now! I'm a prankster God! Oh, I slay Me!'"

    He does a guy at the pearly gates getting cast down to Hell. "Sorry, you believed in dinosaurs."

    "But it seemed so plausible!"
     
  10. rimbaud

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    This is like finding UFOs in art. Crap.

    Medieval art also shows the peoples of the "far ends" (we will forget the fact that their world had all of the land mass at the top and nothing on the sides or bottom...because it would fall off) of the earth as having multiple limbs, heads, being green and red, having tails, tec. etc.. It must have been true, they just live in the center of the earth now. Or maybe there were really chimerae and sphinx.
     
  11. fadeaway

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    So I guess 5,000 years from now when the world is a mass of radioactive sludge and some archeologist in a protective suit digs up that famous painting of dogs playing poker in an abandoned warehouse, he'll be able to say, "Well, this proves that dogs were intelligent and engaged in human activities like playing cards."
     
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    The aliens brought us the dinosaur, and the aliens abductethed the dinosaur.
     
  13. KingCheetah

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    You and Woofer need to lighten up and have some fun - well I guess Woofer is having fun actually. ;)

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Sishir Chang

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    Of course dinosaurs existed side by side with mankind.


    Haven't any of you seen the Flintstones?!

    ;)
     
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    My dog kills at Texas Hold'em....or maybe I just suck that bad....hmmmmm...
     
  16. Sishir Chang

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    Not surprising depending on what breed its pretty hard to tell when they're bluffing. For most you have to look under the table to see if they're tale is wagging or tucked between their legs to call a bluff but in the case of Dobermans they always look pissed even if they're holding a straight flush. Golden retrievers are the best though because they still look happy even if they got nothing. I quit playing poker with dogs and cats will clean you out even faster. Don't get me started with marsupials. They're always hiding an ace up their pouch.

    :D
     
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    Well, I was going to continue Batman's Bill Hicks reference and quote the part where Jesus finds a dinosaur on the side of the road and takes a thorn out of his foot (or something) but couldn't find it. So instead I brought up the little green people.
     
  18. No Worries

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    Don't crocodiles, sharks, and cockroaches date back to the Age of Dinosaurs?
     
  19. Dubious

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    (I've told this story once before)

    In 1978 at TAMU I had a biology course taught by a PHD candidate in micropaleontology( she disecected fossilized dinosaur dung). She told us she beleived that dinosaurs had lived so long that they had become very wise. They decided that by procreateing they were just extending their Karma so, by mutual consent they decided that they would just die off leaving the planet to whomever devloped. This of course was before the theory of the Yucatan meteor.

    I don't know much about Hinduism but I just love that story. I could see how it would make a great Kilgore Trout sci-fi story for human beings. We decide that humans are ruining the planet so by mutual desciscion , we just stop procreating and the Earth returns to a state of nature. Maybe the story is told by future Cockraoches who find fossilized Hummers.
     
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