Again, you rely on theory instead of reality. No PM is going to make a decision for the future of the UK against the will of the parliament. It would destroy the country. Whatever the outcome is, parliament will have a say and they will reject no-deal in it's current form. The only way that changes is with a general election and a new parliament.
LOL - you should go back and re-read your posts quoting every British and EU leader you could find that supported what you wanted to believe, taking them at face value, and then repeatedly saying "I see no other alternative!!" for months on end despite being wrong time after time. Now you again quote sources you desperately want to believe without recognizing reality. Being wrong about May was just stupid and one example of your lack of understanding of anything happening over there - everyone but you knew she couldn't live up to those promises.
At this point, I don't care what they do. Don't care who their prime minister is, don't care if they exit, or under what terms. It'll impact me both as an EU citizen and as an employee of a British company, but I ran out of ****s to give. This is like a series that has gone on too many seasons. Why would anyone want to serve in Trump's cabinet? But, for some reason, people do.
Exactly i lost interest as it got drag far too much, it's just too messy and too "stretched" for me. On a positive note(personally) a low pound is good for me so no complaining there. About the second part i can see some reason for why people would like to be the prime minister, specifically to show that they were right to endorse Brexit and that all of the mess and problems is not beacuse of Brexit but beacuse of the pepole.
Not as arrogant as Boris Johnson. Dude couldn’t hack it as Foreign Secretary so he resigned and he’s arrogant to think he can be PM? The dude lies everytime he opens his mouth.
This is from a Brit citizen friend of mine in Houston, he's very much more dour about the prospects than you are: I honestly have no idea how this will go. Gun to my head, I’d say hard Brexit, i.e. falling out of the EU with no agreement in place. The Brexit campaign was breathtakingly corrupt and based entirely on the fake premise that Britain could keep all the stuff it liked from the EU, while still getting out. Europe was consistent in saying that this was nonsense and would never happen. When the Brexit vote squeaked to a narrow victory, every leader in the Brexit movement quit. They knew it was impossible. The PM Cameron quit, because this was his ****ing mess in the first place and was replaced by May, who was anti-Brexit. She prostituted the government to a fringe group in order to maintain a majority, and has been getting told to **** off ever since by everyone from Aberdeen to Azerbaijan. Every Brexit proposal put to a vote in Parliament has gone down. So now it’s very possible that Boris Johnson - the Clown Prince of Brexit - will be the new PM. If that happens, think of the worst thing possible, double it, and you’ll still fall short of how bad things will get.
So the globalist establishment left is apparently going to be quintupling down on 'Operation Fear' then. Shocker.
Here is the conclusion of an excellent article published today by British MP Owen Patterson. The entire article is excellent and it very eloquently and correctly expresses what the policy and strategy of the new Prime Minister, the Tory Party and the UK Parliament should be in handling the Brexit issue from this point forward. The next Prime Minister must ensure we are out of the EU by 31st October, deal or no deal The incoming leader has, therefore, a clear remit on how to proceed. One thing is absolutely certain. There can be no further extensions to Article 50. Failure to meet the 29th March deadline has been near catastrophic for the Conservatives. Any further delay would surely prove fatal. Any new leader must say, completely unequivocally, that we leave on 31st October at the latest, whether or not we have a new deal. We must seek to negotiate a wide-ranging trade agreement, but we must be prepared, if necessary in the interim, to go to WTO terms. We must also correct a significant mis-step by giving absolute clarity that EU citizens resident in the UK will continue to have the right to live and work here in any event. The new Prime Minister and the new Cabinet will face a difficult task, but one which can be expressed very simply. If it wants to have any hope of bringing back the members and voters it is currently haemorrhaging, and if it wants to have any credible claim to believe in democracy, it must make good on the promises which the outgoing Government has broken. It must repair the trust which the mistakes of its predecessor have so profoundly eroded. While this sounds like the position of Boris Johnson, the new PM does not necessarily need to be Boris Johnson and I suspect that Owen Patterson probably agrees with that. In fact, I could be wrong, but I do not believe that Boris Johnson is anywhere near having a solid lock on this position, and I will not be the tiniest bit surprised if someone else wins the position. There seem to be almost as many contenders as there are for the Democrat presidential primary here in the US. The difference of course is that the only people who get to vote for who the Prime Minister nominee will be are other Tory MP's. But whoever they choose, it needs to be someone who fits Owen Patterson's excellent profile nearly to the letter.
Candidates still appear to be getting into the race, but the litmus test issue for this contest is rapidly shaping up to be whether or not the candidates will unequivocally support a no-deal Brexit. We do not have a complete list of candidates here, and not all of those listed have addressed the issue yet. But they will certainly have to, if they want to be seriously considered.
It appears that turnout in the UK for the EU parliamentary elections may have exceeded 2014 and could be in the running to be the highest on record at about 38%. We will have to wait until tomorrow night for the official results and turnout figures. But who do you think these people are voting for? UK TURNOUT FIGURES Number Cruncher Politics, a non-partisan site, reports that based on figures from around 150 British councils, turnout in the U.K. was on average just over 2 points higher than in 2014. The pattern suggests a national British turnout figure in the high 30s, most likely 38 percent, it wrote. Check out this Twitter thread for a breakdown of where turnout increased most. According to Europe Elects, this means turnout in the U.K. for the European election was the highest — or second highest — it’s ever been. The last time turnout reached 38 percent was in 2004, when 38.5 percent of eligible voters went to the ballot box.
Gotta love how the Trump haters b**** about how democracy dies in darkness but when it comes to one of the greatest democratic betrayals in the modern West — not even a whimper. This is how democracy dies.
Notice that he said catastrophic for the Conversatives, rather than the UK. At least he's open about the fact that his concern is party, not country. Except this is exactly how democracy is supposed to work. A non-binding, non-specific referendum was voted on and approved. The government was in charge of working out the details. The PM didn't agree with it, so he resigned. A new PM was put in place, and new elections were held. The people put in a parliament that was clearly very anti-no-deal. The new PM tried to rule like a dictator and ignore parliament and she failed miserably. So they will now replace her and try again. That is how democracy works - you have to have majority support to implement things.
The plan for replacing Theresa May is apparently for Tory MP's to take a series of votes through the end of June, with the Prime Minister candidate with the lowest vote total being eliminated from contention at the end of each vote, until there are two remaining. Then those two remaining candidates will have close to a month to campaign with Tory Party members (About 124,000 people), with a vote being held among that group at the end of July. From the BBC: Conservative Party: New PM to be in post by end of July A statement from the party's chairman and the backbench 1922 Committee said nominations for the leadership would close in the week starting 10 June. MPs will then whittle the candidates down to two by the end of June, before party members vote for their choice ahead of Parliament's summer recess. The statement praised Theresa May for her "dedication, courage and tenacity". Mrs May announced earlier that she will quit as Conservative leader on 7 June, but would continue to serve as PM while a leadership contest takes place. Whoever those 124,000 people vote for will then become the next Prime Minister. Apparently no additional vote is required by the UK Parliament. The UK Parliament has an annual recess from near the end of July until early September. So once the new PM is elected, they will all immediately go on vacation for the rest of the summer. After reconvening for about a week or so in September, it is the typical practice of the UK Parliament to then recess from the middle of September until around the end of the first week in October for the party conferences. Here is a link to what the specific schedules have been over the last two years. If that pattern is followed again this year, then there will be about three weeks left in October before the Article 50 Brexit date on October 31, 2019 for the Parliament to do whatever it is that they might try to do about this, if anything. Or, the new Prime Minister might just focus on running out the clock. Because if nothing else is done, the UK will leave the EU with no deal on October 31, 2019, as that is the default law of the land.
Can you tell me how the new PM will get anything to pass when May couldn't? Do you think May was the only thing holding up no deal Brexit?
The new PM does not need to pass anything to achieve a no deal Brexit. In fact a no deal Brexit has already been approved by Parliament. So all the new PM needs to do is make sure that nothing is passed to change that. So far, nothing has been passed that changes this, even under Theresa May. They approved an extension of the exit date. Otherwise, Brexit with no deal remains the Parliament approved default course of action. The only way that the opponents of Brexit were able to win the extension vote - by a one vote margin - was by attaching it as an amdndment to the third "Meaningful vote" on the Withdrawal Agreement. The new PM will not be bound by her Withdrawal Agreement and the leaders of the EU have consistently made it clear that they have no intention of renegotiating that deal, or negotiating another. The new PM will control what gets debated and voted on. If nothing is presented that the opponents can attach an amendment to, then it does not appear that they will be able to get their proposal, such as say another extension request, voted on much less passed. These sorts of tactics would of course result in the opponents of Brexit wailing and gnashing their teeth in a rather hysterical manner. But the new PM and the other Brexit supporting MP's apparently only need to sit on their hands for about three weeks at the end of October in order to run out the clock. This appears to be the path to success for the new PM. Of course the opponents of Brexit will try anything and everything to stop it, and the new PM will have to have the strength to stand their ground without flinching or backing down, a challenge that Theresa May was not up to. But it does appear that the path is there to block any action by the opponents of Brexit, if the new PM is willing to stay on it.
Michael Gove has joined the race to the next Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. Make no mistake about it, this guy is sharp as a tack and he could very certainly win this contest. Michael Gove joins Tory leadership race Michael Gove, the U.K. environment secretary and a leading Brexiteer, is set to join the race to succeed Theresa May, the Sunday Times and Sunday Telegraph reported. Gove's entry into the contest will electrify a race that also includes former Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson. In the immediate aftermath of the 2016 Brexit referendum, Gove dramatically withdrew his support from Johnson's leadership campaign in order to stand himself. That led to the former London mayor, who had been the de facto leader of the Leave campaign, pulling out of the race.
I've thought for a while that there is a need for a second referendum. The Brexit campaign was patently dishonest and, I suspect, yet another national vote influenced to an extent by Russia. That the "Leave" campaign was dishonest is obvious to anyone paying attention. As has already been pointed out, when it passed, those who were its strongest supporters fled as if it was radioactive, and nothing turned out like they had predicted. Also, like the 2016 election here, many voted to leave the EU thinking that the vote would fail, that their vote was a protest of the status quo, but a vote that would have no impact beyond what they thought it was, a vote expressing their displeasure with how things were and that government needed to get its act together. Like trump's election here, the Leave result shocked them to the core. In my opinion, a second vote in the UK would produce a different result, with Britain remaining in the EU, with the terms of remaining to be negotiated, something I suspect Brussels would be thrilled to have as a result. Brexit has badly damaged both the UK and the EU. Business has been fleeing Britain, and the Union continues to be weakened. The idea that a "hard brexit" would be a good thing is madness.
