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CU rape scandal gets worse

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by P. Moon, Feb 17, 2004.

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  1. P. Moon

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  2. Kam

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    Perhaps, they will get the death penalty.
     
  3. Master Baiter

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    If everything they are talking about is true then they deserve it.
     
  4. P. Moon

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    Yeah, these parts are especially damning:

    Then Barnett says:
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  5. Lil Pun

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    What exactly is that? Didn't SMU get it in the 80s? What is it?
     
  6. Smokey

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    Exactly what it sounds like, no more football team.
     
  7. Hobbs

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    Death penalty is what it sounds like. The Football team no longer exists for a period of time. The university can not field a team in that sport until the NCAA says it can. It's devastating to a program because beyond the not playing for such a period it takes years after the period to rebuild anything in terms of players and it's almost certain the team will never reach what it was before the death penalty.
     
  8. B-Bob

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    But why did this happen to Rice? :( ...(;) )
     
  9. Smokey

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    I don't know if the NCAA will hand out the death penalty anymore. For example, Alabama football and Baylor basketball are two recent programs with major scandals that did not get it.
     
  10. Isabel

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    though, IMO, they should have gotten it. :( Regular probation is no more than a slap on the wrist in the grand (moneymaking) scheme of things for these schools. Recently, all these "self-imposed sanctions" where schools are allowed to decide their own punishment, which would hurt them the least... that's just making it worse.
     
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    Why should Baylor or Alabama get the death penalty? I can understand with Colorado, but do you even know what happened at Alabama. That's common SEC stuff. Baylor practically has the death penalty, but I don't see why they should have gotten it.
     
  12. Mr. Mooch

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    What happened at Alabama was a series of incidents that went on too long. Death penalty was a serious possibility, but wouldn't have been a just one.

    It did, however, set an example and was a type of 'whistle blowing' for other schools. Michigan (basketball) did and still does deserve the death penalty, I believe. What these schools learned was that stubborness and denial is not the way to go; self-imposed restrictions are far more appreciated by the NCAA than claiming nothing went on.

    Now there are problems with Auburn and Tennessee. While similar to Alabama's problems, they don't appear to be as extensive and dragged out as 'Bama's. There were casualties from the Alabama scandals; two assistant coaches have had their names and reputations smeared when they did nothing wrong. Part of the reason that Alabama was focused on and got such a severe deal was that, and it's now coming out, that Phil ****ing Fulmer met with the NCAA and divulged information regarding the Alabama situation (Albert Means specifically) in return that Tennessee wouldn't get probation. **** Tennessee; **** the NCAA. (clarify this in more detail, bamaslammer)

    I don't think Colorado will get it though; it's just a threat they use. Something very similar happened at UAB two summers ago with about 5 or 6 football and basketball players. They were kicked off the team and I don't believe the school received any discipline, mainly because it was an isolated incident.
     
  13. SamFisher

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    This is inappropriate to say right now, but:

    That chick is kind of pretty hot. Much hotter than I expected a D-1 football playing chick to be.
     
  14. Isabel

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    I remember the story about the underage girl at UAB. (to make a long story short, a 15-year-old freshman who had been home schooled all her life was living in the dorm with the football team during the summer. Before you knew it she was partying and sleeping with players. It was all consensual, but there are doubts about whether they should have taken advantage of someone so young. She felt sort of violated later.) Poor judgment on the players' parts... unfortunately, these scandals are just the ones who happened to be caught. Stuff happens at nearly every school. :(
     
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    It's a disaster here right now. We have a game going to see who can spot the most camera crews in a week. I won last week with 8 (3 ESPN, 2 local CBS, local NBC, local FOX and local ABC). Really not proud to be a CU student right now.

    That said, none of this is surprising (how sad is that?). What'd be more surprising is if this WASN'T going on at other programs. I bet stuff like this is happening every year at UT, OU, LSU, USC, etc.. Hopefully, by making an example out of CU, they'll get other schools to stop this crap.
     
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    About the Colorado situation, I don't know if you can claim "lack of institutional control," which the NCAA's favorite catch-all to slap heavier punishment on an offending institution. I think this sort of thing goes on many campuses and the simple reason is the prestige of college football.

    These kids are told from day one that they are gods and they get all of this money spent on uniforms, weight rooms, new stadium additions, new dorms etc. This kind of strokes the old ego and leads them to believe (mistakenly) that because of what they do and the amount of attention they enjoy, they are above the law. I think the most that will happen is that a few players are booted off the team and the rest go through some sort of sensitivity training.

    As for the Alabama situation, I think that the entire situation was mishandled by the NCAA from the get-go. The secret witnesses and the fact that a minor basketball incident that was self-reported and fixed (the coach was fired and the recruit was never offered a scholarship) was used against them conclusively proved that the NCAA Enforcement Committee was out to destroy 'Bama.
    There was wrongdoing and the buying of Albert Means was as dreadful an allegation as ever, but did it merit Yeager's statement that Alabama "was staring down the barrell of a gun?" Of course not.

    There are too many coincidences linking Fulmer with the enforcement committee, especially since UcheaT has had numerous scandals uncovered, with nary a hint of interest from the NCAA. A quid pro quo there is not out of reason. Hopefully, the Cottrell/Ivy Williams case will cause the NCAA to cease with its twisted trials and do things in an open, fair manner, instead of selective enforcement. It's too late to get Alabama back all of the bowl revenue they've lost thanks to the NCAA, but at least it will save other programs from the same fate.

    As someone who has covered the SEC for several years now, I can say the inter-school wars between fans is getting worse by the minute. Tattling on each other to the NCAA has become a prefered weapon to counter dominance on the field. Also, I believe that although the SEC has an "outlaw" reputation, the rest of big college football is not without taint.
     
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    Well not exactly, since you can't resume playing football or anything when you get the real death penalty/;)
     
  18. Smokey

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    Did yall hear Barnett's comments yesterday that led to him being suspended? It was freaking hilarious :D

    Barnett: Football is a guy's sport. She (Katie) was terrible. She couldn't kick it through the uprights. It was obvious she didn't belong here. She was forced upon us. Guys, first of all she was a girl, guys respect ability. You could even be 90 years old. She didn't have any (ability).
     
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    objection, irrelevant!

    objection, badgering the witness!

    i do not see the point in commenting on the football skills of a rape victim when the subject is that she was raped. thank you.
     
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    What the hell was he thinking? And WTF was he trying to say? She didn't get respect since she sucked as a kicker and that's why she was raped? :rolleyes: :mad:
     

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