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Why suddenly everone is sooo far right

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by dachuda86, May 6, 2019.

  1. dachuda86

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    Pew pew pew.

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    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Independent voter there. :rolleyes:
     
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    Trump is obviously a Nazi: his daughter is a Jew, his son-in-law is a Jew, and his grandchildren are Jews.

    These are the hallmarks of a Nazi.
     
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    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Good people on both sides, even the Nazis.
     
  6. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    It's a picture..where is the "why"?
     
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    thinking the same thing
     
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    Pew asks, for example, whether poor people have it easy because they can get government benefits without doing anything in return. In 1994, 63% of Republicans agreed with this sentiment, as did 44% of Democrats.

    This year, 65% of Republicans agreed — a 2-point increase — while just 18% of Democrats did — a 26-point drop.​

    So answering “no” to that question makes you an extremist leftist?
     
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    Yeah because no one has ever had that racist parent and/or grandparent and married someone that would feed into that. That's never happened ever.

    Unless trump arranged the marriage (which, weirdly, isn't out of the question though it would have a whole lot less to do with the Kushner's religion than it would their bank accounts), he absolutely can be a racist, Nazi s***bag who's daughter married a Jew.
     
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    yeah it's an odd question to begin with
     
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    I haven't looked at the Pew survey, but if that's the sort of questions they're asking than the graph in the OP is pretty misleading. Of course a poor person receiving government aid doesn't mean they "have it easy" in life. What a ridiculous question. It's shocking that 65% of Republicans would answer "yes" to that.
     
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    Investors Daily is like their papa the WSJ very right wing in their editorial section. For them their big horror is that poor people will make $15/hr. and a lot of their readers will somehow make less.
     
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    Pew is credible. But only when it confirms your beliefs I see. Otherwise... oh look, let's shoot holes in a question and call it a day. :)
     
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    FIFY
     
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    I think it's an interesting graphic, but what I take away from it is how right and left have drifted apart, and how each 'mountain' seems to have grown more assymetrical in its distribution around its mean. Suggests to me that both parties have a more extremist wing that is pulling the average away from the political middle.

    However, I would not take the lesson that the Democrats have moved more over the last 25 years than the Republicans so they are somehow to blame. It sets 1994 as some kind of baseline, which seems arbitrary if not downright cherry-picked (as I recall it, 1994 was the zenith of the corporate democrat and probably the moment when the party was its most conservative). Also, you expect change over time, and there's no reason to think a move left or right is worse than its opposite. So I think the same-party comparison can lead you down the wrong path, but seeing the increased polarization is pretty compelling.
     
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    The baseline should be Reagan. That is the nexus when big money corporate interests began increasing lobbying and creating fake think tanks to influence public policy. Additionally this is when the Fairness Doctrine was trashed and when conservative talk radio turned nutso.
     
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    Isn’t it important to how they are defining left and right?

    If being “poor is easy” is the the new conservative manta, is it any wonder the graph looks that way?
     
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    Here is Pew's actual study: http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-co...47/10-05-2017-Political-landscape-release.pdf

    Looks pretty interesting but very long. Perusing the graphs (which usually have a dozen datapoints over the 25 years instead of 2), it's interesting to see the inflection points on some attitudes. On some questions, 2008 Obama/Recession. Trump's election seems to have graphically moved a leftward swing for Democrats while not much of a move for Republicans.
     
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    Pew pew pew
     

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