No, I would not, because I believe that Francis will be better than Nowitzki. ------------------ Founder and President of the Houston Homers Club(HHC) - Are you a homer? Join now! The Rockets will be NBA champions. Believe.
The Bulls have six championships.... So they must be great. Dallas sucks...let's learn all we can from the bulls Sactown has 0 championships, but so many of you drool over the fact that we have 10-15% chance of getting CW. But according to most of your arguements we don't need him...he plays for a team w/ no championships. How could he possibly have anything the rockets could use. 76'ers have sucked for decades...so that means we shouldn't learn anything from them, even though they had the best record (or did they...I kinda quit paying attention as soon as we were eliminated) this year. (please excuse me while I go out of my mind with this last statement) The Spazz....0 championships. As much as I hate them (repeat hate them) over the last few years their team has executed as consistently as any team in the NBA. But I guess consistency and execution aren't qualities that the rocks need to possess, cause look how far it has gotten the Jazz. People...To say that we cannot learn from teams that haven't won any championships, or has made some bonehead moves ten years ago is ludicrous. I don't think Dakota's arguement was "look how the Mavs have screwed up in the past, we need to learn from that". I think it was more along the lines of "the Mavs are playing good ball THIS YEAR, maybe we can learn something from the way they've played THIS YEAR". If you don't learn anything from playing other teams (good or bad) then you will never be a great team. ------------------
Floyd you insult at LEAST my intelligence. Alright, lets take a quick look shall we at the Dallas team that is playing good basketball THIS YEAR....okay, oh! hold up, theres a 7 foot shooter that plays there sf/pf....jesus.... clutch, put it up on the marquee, we love our team, but we need to send the scouts out and scour the germanic tribes for another such abberation to compliment our team into a winning season. THAT, our we need to trade Stevie FRANCHISE, for Das Wonder BOY. this is my favorite quote from the radio this weekend (and god knows sports radio sucks on the weekend [except late at nights], ie: chet koppick ) In regards to the Nba... "THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE GAME...NOTHING, THE GAME IS FINE...ITS AS SIMPLE AS MUSIC, AN ISSUE OF YOUR FATHER THINKING YOUR MUSIC WAS TERRIBLE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, THIS ISN'T YOU'RE FATHER or YOUR GRANDFATHERS NBA...GET OVER IT, THE GAME IS FINE, AND IT HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL WITHOUT DESPARATE DAVE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT RULES THAT MUCK IT ALL UP!" ------------------ -jbond77
huh???? How did I insult your intelligence? I wasn't talking about Dirk or Stevie or the state of the NBA right now. I think someone started a "trade Stevie for Dirk" thread, and I know there are several "what's wrong w/ the NBA" threads. I was just trying to stay on the original topic. My apologies if it confused you. The point I was trying to make is that the Rocks can learn from EVERY team, no matter how much they suck. I'm not talking about the just the Mavs. ------------------
HAHAHAHA!!!!! I'm sure no one else got that except for maybe Clutch and slcrocket, but that was classic... ------------------ "There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and STATISTICS..." - Mark Twain -
Floyd, all I'm saying is when you say "I tink what DaDakota means is that we can look at the Dallas Mavericks team THIS year, and learn from them (or any team for that matter - added later).... Ok. I've looked at them. Mo didn't play like he did in the second half of the season like he did the first half easily....Hakeem? Hakeem who? the first half of the season....I mean I'm not saying that the Rockets didn't had flaws or were the best team in the western conference because on both counts I would be wrong. WHAT I am saying is this: "We did damn good enough this year to make the playoffs and maybe upset a team like Utah if the dice would have fallen for us". But it didn't.... I'm not going to make excuses for the 3 games we would have had to have won to make the playoffs, I don't have too...Its easy, 3 games THIS season for the Rockets that they could have won and didn't for any given reason is enough to put us up in like 3rd or 4th place in the western conference. ALL I'm saying is that the Rockets ARE good, and will get ONLY better after this offseason and teams like the Dallas Mavericks we should look to as LEARNING something from, more like we should LOOK at their games and learn how to completely dismantle their offense and defense. Thats it. I just am a die hard rockets fan that takes insult at hearing the topic being "We should learn from the Mavs", hell thats like saying "the Mets should learn from the Yankees" on a Mets board. Thats it, sorry I'm not a fair weather fan. I LIKE the fact that were clutch city and that we get dissed in the media, I LIKE being the underdog, and I think Houston sports embodies that episode or character perfectly and if it always comes down to the last shot, we either miss it or we don't. Thats it. We either are great (of course astreicked by sans Jordan or whatever) or we go home losers (ie: Houston vs. Buffalo). I like that, and I'll be damned if I say "Sure, lets look at the enemy, acknowledge their great, and pattern ourselves after it". We're Houston...Will figure it out, and we'll have the chance, and will either miss it or make it. We ALWAYS will be, I'm convinced. thats why I LOVE Houston, (not HOWstone), and I always WILL. YOU GOT TO HATE DALLAS ------------------ -jbond77 [This message has been edited by jbond77 (edited May 08, 2001).] [This message has been edited by jbond77 (edited May 08, 2001).]
Interesting article in the Chronicle about the Mavs, Spurs. I post it in this forum and this thread for the second of two questions I pose: 1) Do you agree with Blinebury that the lack of a strong inside presence is the Mavs' achilles heel and hinders them from being legit championship contenders? 2) Do you think this applies to the Rockets? Here are some excerpts: This was a definite step up in class for the Mavs, who may be fun to watch with their stuck-on-fast-forward style, but don't have the sheer muscle or the know-how to advance any deeper in the playoffs. Running jump shots and squared-up 3-pointers might light the fire of the crowd when they're falling. But they are the ingredients of an offense that can't be much more than a carnival sideshow when the heat gets turned up in the playoffs. The Mavs have become the Phoenix Suns of the new millennium -- a 50-plus win team with no championship hope. The reason for that is quite simple: the Mavericks -- from their silly, childish, cartoon character of an owner, Mark Cuban -- to the last man on their bench, have no true depth or backbone. All they are is shooters and that is never going to get you very far in the postseason. Not when the Spurs can dump the ball inside again and again to Robinson and Duncan for finger rolls, dunks and layups. Not when the Spurs can pound away like jackhammers on the backboards to give themselves second and third chances to simply wear you down. At first glance, what the Mavs need are big men. But what they really need are big men who play like big men. At 6-10, Howard disappears when things get tough. At 7-foot, Nowitzki is softer than Bavarian cream pie, shooting fadeaway jumpers. At 7-6, Shawn Bradley is still less fearsome when the game is on the line than a bobblehead doll. So what do I think? Well, first, I think Blinebury is a s***head and his article is typically and unfairly meanspirited. I think his analysis is flawed and his tone unforgivably condescending. Reason no. 42 to hate Blind-bury. However, I do wonder if the Mavs and the Rockets, no matter how good their present players get, will always be at a disadvantage against teams led by their big men, that the Mavs team with Howard and Bradley and a Rockets team with, say, Mo Taylor and LaFrentz would ultimately fail to get to and win the Finals. I suppose many of you will say (and not unjustly) "Duh!", but if so, that really makes me question the true value of Taylor and/or LaFrentz. But that's a topic for another thread. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Relativist (edited May 11, 2001).]
Relativist, I think Fran is right on the money, and yes it does come right to the heart of the matter for the Rockets. You need a BIG MAN anchor to win in the playoffs. If you get beat off the dribble, someone to close the lane down. The Rockets (especially if Dream leaves) are extremely soft in the middle. Mo Tay, Cato, Collier, etc...do not exactly strike fear into anyone's hearts. Plus, throw in the fact that Steve and Cat are not real good at defending yet, and you get a team that is growing, but is not quite ready for prime time. DaDakota ------------------ If you like RTS games, check out this one. www.frontierwars.com coming soon to a PC near you.
