Everybody has bad games but to say everyone else is complete garbage isn't true. There have been many games when our others have played great, and helped us win. I've been tracking 3 PT shots since Feb 21st in our run for playoff seeding and some of our guys have been great. Gordon has made 2 less 3's than James with 45 less attempts. James 57/178 (.320) Gordon 55/133 (.414) Paul 32/91 (.352) Tucker 35/73 (.479) Rivers 13/43 (.311) House 15/31 (.484) Give our other guys some credit. They all have bad nights but have been playing good for over a month, and definitely contributed towards our wins. Even the lowest percentage players contribute in other ways.
Do you realize that James Harden is one of the greatest 3 point shooters in history of NBA. Most unassisted 3's ever. His step back and side step have revolutionized the game. When young up and coming stars are emulating Harden on the biggest stage (March Madness) that means something. And your fascination with 3 point shooting efficiency should factor in that Harden's 3 point shooting average is not the be all and end all stat as it fails to recognize that Harden has surpassed Curry for the most made 3's in a season. Let that sink in for a second because Curry is universally recognized as best 3 point shooter in game for setting this record but his career percentage is not even better than Steve Kerr's. Harden SHOULD be taking the most treys on the Rockets because he is unstoppable when its dropping and it sets up his other offensive weapons. It's not about not giving the other Rockets' credit, it's about recognizing the historic season the best player in the world is having even with an injury depleted team and carrying this team from the bottom of the conference to the top. His achievements this season have placed him in the rare air of legends like Wilt, Jordan, Elgin, Oscar, the Logo and Kobe.
I was responding to a guy saying the rest of our team is garbage, and don't agree. For over a month we have had good numbers from other players as well, and will give them credit as well as James for us getting to the 3rd seed. I get tired of people saying the rest of our team is garbage.
Spurs game is a perfect situation with which to make my point. If Harden is not completely on, or otherwise carrying the load, it doesn't seem like the rest of the team can be counted on, to win a game. Harden started the game strong, and we lead by double digits. When Harden sat or when he tried to get others involved, the Spurs mounted a huge comeback. This simply cannot happen in a 7-game series against the best teams in the NBA. You can use the box score to justify your point all you want, but that doesn't tell the entire story. However, if you want to break down the box score from last night: the team was 14-37 from 3. Without Harden going 9-13 from 3, the team would be 5-24. That's just not good.
factoring injuries, harden by far has the heaviest burden to carry on his shoulders/back / heaviest team to drag. Compared to what steph or kd or giannis or kawhi or jokic has to carry. Its relatively garbage.
No, because you get 2 free throws per 1 two point shot. 100 percent of free throws equals to 100 percent of 2 pointers. That isn't even accounting for "and 1s"
No...a free throw is worth one point. If you make 100/100 free throws you only need to make 50/100 2 pointers to get the same amount of points
Again, yes on last night and the previous game. As for the rest of the past month there were many games where the team stepped up big time and shot awesome. If you want to think everyone but James is garbage I just disagree.
I think we have other guys who have played some great ball and we wouldn't have won without them AND James on many of our games this past month. You call them garbage all you want. I won't. My response to someone else had nothing to do with who is best. I am not a Harden only fan like many. I actually like our team. Maybe that's where you and I differ. You don't need to keep trying to justify why you feel differently, because it won't make me dislike the rest of the team.
James' jumper looked damn near perfect against San Antonio. Obviously, they went in, but they way he was following through all the way on virtually every shot and consistently keeping a solid base was a thing to behold. If he can keep his jumper in this kind of form heading into the playoffs, we are about to witness something truly epic.
The give the other guys shots because their percentages are good argument is only good in theory. Based on percentages it’d be nice if every shot our team took was from Clint. Problem is the defense isn’t going to let it happen. Just because Gordon is on fire from 3 doesn’t mean just hand it to Gordon and let him squeeze off as many as he can get. The way our team works for the most part is role players feeding off our 2 creators. Defenses aren’t always going to allow for our guys to fire off wide open 3 after wide open 3 and Harden is forced to get off shots no one else on the team is capable of doing.
One of the things that adds to your point is guys are not moving. To me the guys sitting in the corner need to crash the boards when James puts a shot to help get offensive rebounds oppose to just waiting for james to chuck it if he misses its a fast break on the other end if you get the rebound You can attack defenses when they are off balance
What does that have to do with my original post? If you think the rest of our team is garbage then we feel differently. I like our team. I'm not disputing James creates the opportunities and is our best player.
You didn’t reference it in that post in particular, but I have seen you post on the topic before. Complaining in one of the Harden shoots too many 3s threads that if Gordon or Rivers or whoever is “hot” that they need to get more shots, instead of Harden stepbacks. Ignoring the fact that it’s really not that simple. It’s infinitely easier in our offense to get a Harden stepback over trying to create an open opportunity for the role players. And honestly the post I responded to is pretty much referencing your previous point.
Let's hope he at least gets back up there for playoffs, especially if he takes 23 3's in a game. His percentage since Feb 21st is much lower, at only .326 (76 of 233). But, Gordon has gone way up which is great. He is shooting .422 at (70 of 166).
