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Mosque mass shooting

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by LosPollosHermanos, Mar 14, 2019.

  1. Space Ghost

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    If you do not understand the most basic mechanics of a weapon(or any topic for that matter), I would recommend for you not to put too much though into the topic until you educate yourself.

    And why does the crux of your arguments vaguely remind me of BobbyTheGreat.... general ramblings of a contrarian.
     
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  2. Jump Ship

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    Dont know why it does.

    It doesnt change the argument and it is still valid. Never said US state. There are city states all around the world.

    I am not trying to be combative, you guys had problems with my statement. There is no need to risk public worship anywhere in the world where they have loose gun laws. It is a risk you have to take every week. As for schooling, same thing. You send your kids to multiple schools every day and if they are zoned to low income schools then either get them in private school by middle school or home school them.

    You can risk yours, but i will pass. I am not advocating living in fear, but the trade off is not worth the risk at a certain point. I will not gamble with my life or the lives of my children.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    Is Trump responsible for anything this killer did? Absolutely not. Was Trump responsible for the murderer/terrorist who ran over the crowd at the Nazi march? Nope.

    But if these are the types of people that are applauding Trump, then Trump is doing things wrong. He isn't responsible for them but he could certainly behave in a way that these people wouldn't praise him.

    It is a huge disgrace for Trump.
     
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  4. ChrisBosh

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    Significant number of people believe apostasy & blashpemy are punishable by death? I'm talking to a bot.

    OK.

    The concept of apostasy was relevant when there were wars based specifically on religion (going to another side). Not sure on any details because nobody knows or claims to know other than extremists and Islamaphobes. It's obscene to believe that a significant portion actually have any significant knowledge on this as this not relevant today. I don't know what people in Pakistan think. However, when events related to this do happen there is generally a lot of noise (makes the news), meaning it likely doesn't happen often. Btw, lets consider, say India, the Hindu's who kill people who eat cow meat? Lots of people eat cow in the world, they going to kill them all? India is trending towards Hindu extremism at a faster rate, I'd be more concerned about them given the country has WMD and their leaders are on the forefront.
     
  5. Invisible Fan

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    NO ONE is afraid of India leaking their nuclear tech to extremists.

    EVERYONE is afraid of the same when it comes to India's Muslim neighbor.

    Religion makes people go kray +1
     
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  6. ChrisBosh

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    You likely don't know anything about Mohdi and their current political environment. Hell, I was watching this debate on Indian television and they were debating whether they should do the "Final Strike" against Pakistan. That discussion is happening on prime time. Extremist in Pakistan are highly likely to ever reach that level, I believe the neighbors army has been running that country for decades and will continue to do so for the considerable future.
     
  7. Invisible Fan

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    They can talk and posture all they want. India has much more to lose than Pakistan, which is why Pakistan begins these conflicts in the first place.

    Modi's measures has been nationalistic and ultra-business friendly, but nowhere near Erdogan levels or other strongmen Trump admires. It could happen, but again, I'm not going to lose sleep over India leaking nuclear tech.

    Pakistan already has, and their paranoia has them playing whack-a-mole with their already insecure arsenal in fears of someone getting tired of their act and snapping.

    Religion makes people go kray +2
     
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  8. dachuda86

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    only 1?
     
  9. ChrisBosh

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    Another bot. Both sides are knee deep in guilt. You thinking one side sits idle is childish at best. Also, both sides have different significant elements of risks related to WMD.
     
  10. durvasa

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    Yes. I try to follow what the evidence shows. From your response, you don’t seem to be familiar with what people in Pakistan actually believe.

    There really is no sensible way to reconcile the results of this survey with your suggestion that only an insignificant number of people believe apostasy or blasphemy should be punishable by death.

    When a country like Pakistan has blasphemy as a capital offense, that means a significant number of people believe it should be punishable by death. When a Pew survey finds that a majority of the population support death penalty for leaving Islam, that means a significant number of people believe it should be punishable by death.

    OK. Would like to see some numbers on what percentage of Indians support violence or killing of people who eat beef in India.
     
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    What are you talking about? Apostacy isn't relevant today?
    The most populous and progressive arab country Egypt has severe restrictions to any muslim who want to become christian. It used to be far worse but now they just bring forth a mountain of beauracratic obstacles and some days in jail for them and their family, to help them change their mind.
    Still it's very common for whole Coptic neighbourhoods and churches to be burned to the ground and people murdered when someone wants to become christian . At this day and age.
    And we are talking about violence against COPTS the remaining indigenous population of Ancient Egyptians not some foreign population or another nation that moved in recently from elsewhere.

    Not to mention another progressive arab country Jordan where if any muslim becomes christian they are forbidden from ever owning any property. :rolleyes:
    And that's two of the most well developed and civilized muslim countries of the world.

    These are LAWS written in their consitution and implemented by the executive and judicial powers of their country not some things up to opinion.

    I am not even going to mention other more fundamentalist muslim countries where being a christian among muslims is a death sentence.
     
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    The New Zealand PM announced today that the cabinet unanimously have agreed in principle on new stricter gun laws and people shouldn't go out and buy firearms before they hear the new laws.
    They should have no problem passing them through since they only have an outer parliament and there is support from both the public and all political parties on this.
     
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  13. Invisible Fan

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    Blame both sides...thanks Donald. :rolleyes:

    No. They aren't equivalent. Only one side is frequently debated on whether it's a failed state. Only one acts upon that possibility to reach out for aid, you know...because if it does truly fail, WHO THE **** KNOWS where their nukes will go?? You could, along with the world, call out Modi for his airstrikes except the world censured him because the Indian side is considered to be restrained more by reason. Does anyone question whether there are legit terror camps there? Maybe because they've already been guilty of propping up similar camps?

    Pakistan needs to start building its own country up instead of spending even more on the military because of India's economic growth. Pakistan’s army is to blame for the poverty of the country’s 208m citizens. That sounds more like N. Korea than a nuclear power with all the supposed prestige it carries.

    Mr. Muslim expert, on this delicate matter I see you're sensitive enough to resort to name calling. Please remember to count to ten before you hurl anymore insults. You don't want to project more than you already have.
     
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  14. Amiga

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    I doubt shame is a quality that is known to him.

    Not so innocent. Leaders have a greater responsibility on what they said, because what they said influence people. I don't give it a simple "not responsible" pass. Legally, there is no responsibility. Morally, maybe the same. Each individuals are solely responsible for their own actions, yet their actions aren't so simply their own - they are influence since birth by external factors. That's simply the law of nature. So in the law of nature, there is some responsibility, and that gets greater when you have a greater voice.
     
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    .. and of course, trump...

     
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    Interesting.

    They do have a whiff of Bobby.
     
  18. Jump Ship

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    Bahahahahaha
     
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