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[FALSE] Trade Rumor with BUCKS

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by MLC1MGC2ALC3, Feb 4, 2004.

  1. MLC1MGC2ALC3

    MLC1MGC2ALC3 Member

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    Trade Rumor with BUCKS

    Steve Francis
    For
    Tim Thomas & T.J Ford


    Reported on a Sport radio station in Milwaukee.

    Very Nice! :)
     
  2. Thanos

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    If we are going to trade with the Bucks, I want Desmond Mason too.
     
  3. tierre_brown

    tierre_brown Contributing Member

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    If we are going to trade with the Bucks, I want Michael Redd too.
     
  4. A-Train

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    I doubt it...

    1) It doesn't work in real GM because of Steve's BYC designation. The Rockets would probably have to throw in Mobley or a bench player for that trade to work...
     
  5. MLC1MGC2ALC3

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    Steve Francis for Tim Thomas & TjFord does not work on RealGM however this does! :

    Houston trades: SF Bostjan Nachbar (2.9 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 0.6 apg in 10.9 minutes)
    SG Cuttino Mobley (15.3 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 3.2 apg in 39.5 minutes)
    PG Steve Francis (16.6 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 5.9 apg in 39.7 minutes)
    Houston receives: SF Desmond Mason (13.1 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 2.1 apg in 29.2 minutes)
    PG T.J. Ford (7.3 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 6.4 apg in 27.0 minutes)
    SF Tim Thomas (14.4 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 2.2 apg in 32.0 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: 0.0 ppg, +1.8 rpg, and +1.0 apg.

    Milwaukee trades: SF Desmond Mason (13.1 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 2.1 apg in 29.2 minutes)
    PG T.J. Ford (7.3 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 6.4 apg in 27.0 minutes)
    SF Tim Thomas (14.4 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 2.2 apg in 32.0 minutes)
    Milwaukee receives: SF Bostjan Nachbar (2.9 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 0.6 apg in 33 games)
    SG Cuttino Mobley (15.3 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 3.2 apg in 47 games)
    PG Steve Francis (16.6 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 5.9 apg in 46 games)
    Change in team outlook: 0.0 ppg, -1.8 rpg, and -1.0 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Now this gets me excited !:D THE CLICK MUST GO!
     
  6. pchan

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    sounds good. I like this trade.
    Tim thomas can play 3 or 4, and he can shoot from the outside. He can be like scott padgett with more physical skill. Then, cato can be moved back to the bench.
    TJ ford would be great for this team.
     
  7. nyquil82

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    i still can't trust mister realgm-triggerhappy, here. anyone else with a followup?
     
  8. GATER

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    And you managed to pick up this Milwaukee station from Houston? Stations' call letters please.

    BTW --- Francis BYC @ $5m + $6.9M TE <=> Thomas + Ford @ ~$13.8M.

    TRADE REJECTED! :D
     
  9. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Just an FYI, we have the TE that can be matched with any player to equal salaries. Clearly it is easier to trade Francis in the summer but if you HAD to trade him now, this is where the TE can be combined with Francis' BYC to get fair value for him.

    TJ Ford & Thomas for Francis? How about TJ Ford, Thomas, Mason for Francis & Nachbar or Francis & Cato

    Not sure if TJ Ford and Thomas is enough for Francis to be honest.
    The Bucks need a center, let's say they wanted Francis+Cato for Ford+Thomas+Mason.

    Projected Rockets lineup

    Ford
    Mobley/Jackon
    Jackson/Mason/Thomas
    Taylor/Thomas
    Yao

    Obviously more tweaking would need to be done in the offseason. But we would get more athletic I think. The plus for Les is that while he loses the flash of Francis he gains the Flash of Mason and a home state guy in Ford.
     
  10. Stone Cold Hakeem

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    We live to regret the day we trade Steve Francis.
     
  11. yipengzhao

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    wasn't tim thomas a former #1 pick? or was that joe smith?

    anyway, tim thomas was supposed to take the next step a few years ago and he never did... i'm not sure he's worth giving up Francis for.
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    Probably just something some guy on some Milwaukee station said he would like for their team...how does that even qualify as a rumor...it would suck.
     
  13. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    FYI Gater, this rumor was posted on the REAL GM boards. Someone THERE heard the rumor on a radio station.
    http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=208227
     
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    http://www.620wtmj.com/
     
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    Oh, that was me in that radio station, i forgot tell you guys that this trade only happened when i playing NBA2004 on my computer.

    :D :D :D
     
  17. Pass 1st shoot 2nd

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    I'd do this in a heart-beat. But those who think we could get Michael Redd, T.J. Ford and Tim Thomas for Francis and, perhaps, Mobley are overvaluing our players. A fair trade is Francis for Tim Thomas, T.J. Ford, or Francis and Mobley for Michael Redd, T.J. Ford and Tim Thomas. This does not factor in CBA and cap considerations, however.
     
  18. HeyDude

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    I dont want ANYTHING to do w/ a player that makes close to max money yet plays the perimter as a PF like Tim Thomas. He would be a tweener in our system, just like Jamison would. He would get abused by the PFs of the West. I would love TJ in here, but not for Francis. Never.
     
  19. HAYJON02

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    Throw in Kukoc and we'll talk about it until I tell you "Hey ya know what? This trade still sucks. Hey throw in Terry Porter and I'll do it. We need a good backup SG."
     
  20. Stone Cold Hakeem

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    How does this trade make us better? Who scores if we ditch Francis? Captain Cream Puff Ming? Cuttino "Where's the Basket" Mobley?
     

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