Are the Rockets showcasing Nachbar for inclusion in a trade? He's been the 2nd or 3rd person off the bench lately, right behind MoTay and (sometimes) MJ. I know a lot of you are big Boki fans (irrationally so), but seriously -- apart from the fact that he TRIES very hard, he doesn't bring that much to the game. His defense is suspect at best, sloppy and clueless at worst; his vaunted 3-point shot has yet to materialize, and even his slashes to the basket -- something we could use more of -- result in a miss half the time. The only thing I can think of is the team is trying to get his minutes up to elevate his trade value a bit.
for the dozeneth time....VG said that Boki has proved himself in practice and since he works so hard on the cxourt..he like s to use him for certain matchups.. just because a player gets time, he is not being showcased...jeeez..you guys are so desperate for a trade that VG scratching his butt signals a trade to you
Dude, chill with the "you guys are so desperate for a trade" crap. I'm one of the ones who's been saying that the LAST thing we need at this point is a trade. But your "Boki has proved himself in practice" nonsense doesn't fly either. Lots of guys are great in practice. Boki hasn't shown ANYthing during a game. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Zip. Playing well in practice doesn't help get your team into the playoffs. If JVG is actually giving Boki time for that reason, it's the most absurd thing imaginable -- coaches should reward players for how much they contribute during GAMES, not for how well they play when it doesn't count.
I disagree.. if a player works hard in practice you reward them for their effort with playing time. Or else practices become meaningless scrimages. I think good play in practice will translate into solid play in the game. Boki has talent he just doesnt have enough playing time to develop that. J
Granted, but if that player keeps SUCKING during the games, how long do you keep hoping that he'll suddenly develop a knack for playing well when it actually matters? Boki supposedly shot the lights out during his pre-draft workout here. Maybe he does it in practice, too. But I've yet to see him play like an NBA player should, and that includes summer league games I've been to.
It isnt *my* Boki has earned it in practice BS.... that was a quote from VG. and you are totally wrong about how well he does on defense and everything other than shooting....dead wrong.. try actually watching what he does for once..cause by your attitude...I can tell you havent.
Give me a break. I've got league pass -- even though I like in LA, I've only missed one game this year. Only missed 2 or 3 last year. And I've seen Nachbar play in about a half-dozen summer league teams. I'm probably MORE qualified to talk about his poor play than YOU are, R2K. This year, Boki has been the least productive player on the entire team (now that Moochie's gone, of course). Even Piatkowski had a few streaks where he was nailing 3-pointers. If Boki is so great, why did JVG yank him today after just 3 minutes? Because he was playing horrible defense (2 fouls to go along with his 0 points). Why did Francis have to dress him down on the court during the Kings game? Because Boki was so out of place in transition defense that he allowed an uncontested layup. I'm not saying we should trade the guy -- I'm just saying that it appears he's getting PT that he doesn't deserve, and there must be a reason for it. Maybe he's shining JVG's shoes or something.
Don't be fooled like the Rocks with my shots I'm still, I'm still Boki on the block I like Boki but we could have had Boozer, Murray, Welsch, Songaila, Prince, Jacobsen, Rush or Woods instead.
I've watched every rockets game and when boki plays he shows effort and hustle, I think that if you are a coach, that is a very good thing to see from a player, cuz a player can have all this potential and if the hustle and good attitude is not there, they will get traded or cut, look at Eddie, he had more potential than boki, but a bad attitude, and where is eddie now, and where is boki now, if they wanted to get rid of him, they would have already done it, and i agree, having a good practice has to be worth something in a game, and the for the dude who said that his 3s havent fallen yet, and said that he's watched almost every game, well maybe you missed the one against chicago. 3Pa-4 3Pm-4 for twelve points, that may not be much, but that says something about his shooting ability, it's there it just has to develop, kind of like Yao Ming's aggresivnes, it will happen sooner or later.
I have seen him play some pretty solid defense. Oh, and his 3pt% is about 1.2 a point worse than Mobley's, and Mobley is going to be in the 3pt shootout. I do wish he (and everybody else on the team) would hit more of his layups.
I'd rather see Boki play than Piatkowski right now. Neither of them really get many shots when they are in, compared to Jim Jackson, who they usually sub for. They are basically there to relay the ball and defend. They'll get an occassional shot, but not many. Boki was taken out of the NJ game because he had a much bigger guy to guard, and he was being exposed in the post. That's just a mis-match, not a fault of Boki's effort or skill. He was subbed for Weatherspoon, because Weathespoon is bigger. Simple.
Isn't the real answer to this question is more like..."because Francis let his man blow right by him AND Boki was out of position in transition defense"
Please stop the "Boki on the block" threads...the guy has less than zero trade value. He like the Greek dude in Denver are projects in the absolute sense of the word. You won't even get a sniff of a real contribution until he's well past contract #1 and quite probably on another team. We are developing him for someone else or Europe for that matter. It's unfortuate that when Rudy and CD reached in the draft, they drafted "workout" players instead of basketball players. What was the shooting drill quote?????????
if jvg doesn't give boki any time how is he supposed to develop a project player? boki is not tradeable on his own or even as a bargainig piece.
I hope we keep Boki. Becaues he needs to be let loose. He's the type of player that flourishes on the fast break and on the drive. He's a decent passer when he goes to the basket. He's also an awesome rebounder! Bokis problem is confidence and playing time. If we trade Boki, he will flourish on another team, and we'll regret it. JVG likes him in practices and that's a good thing; no dog house for Boki. We haven't utilized Boki like we should be.
We couldnt get half a bad of Doritos for Boki. WTF is the point of him being on the block? People actually care about this?
JVG said we don't have anyone who can guard the 3 when JJ sits. I think he's trying to get Boki more PT so he has a decent back-up at the 3 spot. Boki can't learn without real experience.
Given Van Gundy's displeasure with the team's effort these last 3 games (especially the 'first 6' guys), I assume he's been playing hustle guys like Boki and Padgett just to get some energy on the court and to show the starters what sort of play you're expecting to get out of them.
