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The Front Office is a problem

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BMoney, Jan 16, 2019.

  1. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.

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    This right here. That's a bullseye. Creating problems for himself is exactly right. With the revelation that basically anyone in the world can come in and hit open 3's I think it's safe to say Ariza's skill level really wasn't irreplaceable. But have they replaced him? Melo didn't want to play anymore but will take a check anyway. Ennis has been inconsistent or hurt. Can't really knock Clark as a 2 way player but also, facts are facts and he hasn't replaced Ariza. Green and Rivers are 2's more than 3's. PJ Tucker isn't quite as versatile defensively and the point was that they worked in tandem anyway. House is really the first guy, as a 2 way player, who you might say was starting to fill in Ariza's shoes....and? And he's not worth more than 4.5 mil to them.

    I mean....House might not be a homerun. I'll take a double though....if not House, then who? Who is worthy of a MLE if not like, YOUNG GUYS WHO CAN COME IN AND CONTRIBUTE?????????????????

    GM Morey getting bored? Needs harder situations to negotiate please.
     
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  2. LosPollosHermanos

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    **** the front office. The #1 priority has been shedding salary and hoping Harden carries this team.
     
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  3. pippendagimp

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    unfortunately, if tilman is unwilling to even eat the tiny minnie-mouse minimum contracts on the books right now, there is absolutely no way in hell he will ever take on a multiyear mammoth like porter's along w/ the repeater tax implications it could have down the line. it really does look like harden's prime is down the toilet at this point
     
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  4. valorita

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    It’s not exactly Morey’s fault that our depth sucks.
    But it is literally his job to fix it.

    James and PJ are the only legit NBA staring caliber players active.

    Think about that. 12-15 roster spots and we have 2 above average rotation pieces.
     
  5. BigBum

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    I think this is the only problem.
    In the nba, there are 2 well-known injury-prone players: Paul and Knight.
    In summer, FO gave Paul $40 million a year and acquired Knight and a Bust Chriss, that is 53% of salary cap.
    And then, Tilman wants to avoid paying the repeater tax.

    I believe Melo and MCW is small issues, not a problem in the future.
     
  6. foggy94

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    1.Chriss is a $4m salary. If you want us to make trades don't you think we should keep hold of expiring contracrts for salary matching?
    2. Do you really think we were offering FOUR 1st round picks for an expiring contract? We were obviously planning on re-signing him this summer.
    3. Who was available who is better than Rivers?
    4. Dedmon earns $6m a year. The only players we can trade for him that match are Chriss/Melo/Nene etc. Those sorts of transactions wouldn't add anything to our books. The reason we haven't gotten Dedmon is not because we can't afford him, what are we gonna give up? We don't have 2nd rounders for 3 years and we aren't exactly gonna give up a 1st for him are we, so what do you suggest?
     
  7. Matt78777

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    I think the biggest miss of the offseason is truly an ownership failure: not resigning Trevor Ariza. Looking at Ariza's number this year I am under no illusion that his presence is the difference between last season and this, or that he would have fared better staying in our system. I just think that having him on our roster at $15M for one year would have given the Rockets another avenue to upgrade the team. Right now, to make salaries match, pretty much all potential trades include some combination of Brandon Knight, Criss, and picks. If Houston kept Ariza, they could make deals to bring back the same amount of salary, but instead of Knight's two year contract, offer Ariza's expiring. Or perhaps combine Ariza and Knight for a high paid star and offer partial salary cap relief. Perhaps Butler could have been attained with Ariza, Gordon, picks,

    Houston lost Ariza for nothing, and that's bad asset management. Morey is a lot of things, but throwing away assets is not something he would ever do. Clearly, that's on ownership, not management.
     
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  8. bulkatron

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    The thought has crossed my mind :/
     
  9. Mr. Space City

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    a friendlier contract gives them more flexability.

    people trying to argue having an extra $15 million to work with is not a good thing.
     
  10. BigBum

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    Get real,
    Morey is trying to shed salary all the time, not adding future salary to upgrade the rosters.
    Someone forward this information to Tilman and Morey.
    The trade market is never being this bad before. Sometimes you have no choice and have to add future salary to improve the rosters.
     
  11. Zergling

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    Ignoring all context, I can't believe we're not willing to give House a 3 year/$6 million contract. Is it just me or is that a MASSIVE bargain for a solid, young, energetic 3&D player? Correct me if I'm wrong...
     
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  12. BigBum

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    Unbelievable!

    Cheap like dirt!
     
  13. Dutchrudder!

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    Does anyone actually know what House requested, or is this all just speculation from people's asses?
     
  14. YOLO

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    for an unproven player, not necessarily a bargain. He doesn't nearly have enough games under his belt. he's had some solid games and he's had duds. his true value to this point is pretty much what the rockets offered him. If there's people that still don't believe the rockets will overvalue borderline role players, then you just haven't followed this team enough .
     
  15. pippendagimp

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    1. this is what i and many are pissed about, yes please use chriss salary in a trade! we have insiders here who state there have been options on the table for morey but he either can't take on longterm salary or he's still holding out for that elusive 3rd star
    2. i never believed that tilman would sign butler to a multi-year contract starting around $35M. we would then have something like $125M tied up in just four players and the repeater lux tax would eventually be in the hundreds of millions
    3. you're still missing the point on rivers. we had no backup PG for 20+ games before rivers became available and were racking up losses in the process. by your logic we shouldn't have even signed rivers, because there could might be a better player available at the deadline, or hey even in next year's draft so let's just wait
    4. yes it would have to involve taking back more salary than we send out in order to entice them, again something tilman will never sign off on
     
  16. BigBum

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    I was unable to prove what he says.

    I'd even do 9 million for 3 years (prorated as 3-years 7 million).
     
  17. YaoMingsSoulja

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    Kobe's whining got him Pau Gasol. Harden should do the same.
     
  18. robbie380

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    What makes you think he would be willing to accept that? I highly doubt he would. His agent said he wants him converted so he can become a RFA (almost effectively a FA due to the low matching threshold) which means he thinks he would make more than that $2 mil per year.
     
  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    We paid a always broken down 33 year old PG $40M a year for 4 years....and you think Matt Maloney's deal was bad.....

    DD
     
  20. ISOBall

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    lul
     

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