I was complimenting the cartoon. Politicians spew bullsh*t constantly and Trump has a gold obsession. Pretty good use of the golden calf and the cult like following politicans have. Clever cartoon. I've said this before, but I'll say it again: I am not a Trump supporter. But because I am not calling him Hitler, people assume I am.
Romans 13 would argue that the illegal border crossings are against God's will itself. Let's play cherry pick the Bible everyone! "Romans 13 New Century Version (NCV) Christians Should Obey the Law 13 All of you must yield to the government rulers. No one rules unless God has given him the power to rule, and no one rules now without that power from God. 2 So those who are against the government are really against what God has commanded. And they will bring punishment on themselves. 3 Those who do right do not have to fear the rulers; only those who do wrong fear them. Do you want to be unafraid of the rulers? Then do what is right, and they will praise you. 4 The ruler is God’s servant to help you. But if you do wrong, then be afraid. He has the power to punish; he is God’s servant to punish those who do wrong. 5 So you must yield to the government, not only because you might be punished, but because you know it is right. 6 This is also why you pay taxes. Rulers are working for God and give their time to their work. 7 Pay everyone, then, what you owe. If you owe any kind of tax, pay it. Show respect and honor to them all." What say yee heretical anti-Trumpers?
I’ve always known religion was just a tool to rule the masses. That verse wasn’t even trying to be sneaky.
Thinking that Jesus is pro helping the poor is considered cherry picking? That makes him a magical mattress Mac to ayn rand prosperity conservatives. Jesus Christ Saves...You tax money!
I didn't claim that the previous post was cherry picking. I just thought I would show how religion is used to justify whatever people want to believe. A conservative would just argue that if the economy was better, it would help poor people. And that hurting the economy with immigration and cheap labor, and a welfare burden, is in effect hurting poor people by robbing them of opportunities. One can take that caring for the poor argument, and interpret it however they feel like it.
Immigration and cheaper labor doesn't hurt the economy...to a degree. No economist will claim that generality. The nativist anger in Europe is deeply rooted in lax immigration policies, but the reason borders are so open is to loosen up an aging and declining labor pool. Ironically, former Eastern bloc countries initially benefited the most from those policies only to fiercely oppose them when it came their turn to share. You can say it forces the new natives into different labor pools whether they like it or not, but that's been going on in the us for a couple hundred years. Obviously too much immigration causes it's own social problems and it becomes a bureaucratic nightmare, but we're nowhere near that state no matter what right wing talk radio wants Trump and you to believe. Ofc some people will claim how southern California has been "taken over" in hushed tones, but that's a hellhole people will still live in and move to if they have the means. I'm not throwing out the concerns of social cons... It's just harder to take them at face value when there are more billionaires in modern history (even more than the gilded age that led to the much loved fdr reforms), hold vast amounts of wealth and power once reserved to heads of state and monarchs, and they sit to benefit the most when the common folk argue about scraps on the table
Actually, the economy does get hurt (from the working class stand point) by illegal immigration because more people means more costs, and more people means less housing and jobs to go around if it exceeds a needed amount of legal immigration. This supresses wages and it increases the cost of housing. You can deny this simple fact all you want. To say that the economy is great because the rich are getting theirs and more, isn't really a complete way to look at the picture. Normal people don't have it so easy because of the simple laws of supply and demand. People arguing for scraps is part of the problem and if people would take their emotional bias out of it, then it would be easier to increase wages for the normal person. Until this happens, the normal people lose power each day. To simply say others' points are from Trump, or right-wing radio, is ignoring the reality on the table. Throughout our country there is a crisis. There are many factors behind it which you can try to blame, but there is a direct relationship between population and the number of available units. As for wages, the black plague wiping out Europe provides a great example of what happens when there is too little labor to go around: wages rise and the power goes down to the people who have value once this happens. Too many people means you have less value in the labor market, and you can't ask for more money. It is not a difficult concept to explain why unchecked immigration is bad for working class -citizens. Honestly, it is bad for white-collar citizens too these days, because this means they still have to pay more for housing and other expenses.
Wish more religious leaders would criticize falwell... PASTOR BLASTS JERRY FALWELL JR. FOR PUTTING TRUMP ABOVE CHRISTIAN VALUES: IT’S HOW ‘HITLER ROSE TO POWER’ https://www.newsweek.com/pastor-bla...kTwitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter As I do wish more republicans would, like britt hume did...
This is not even an original take. finish the whole chapter of romans. don't be Jeff Sessions, which his OWN CHURCH backlashed at Sessions for using this. The best thing would be to remove church and state completely which was the way some dudes in the the late 1700s had intended.
More people means more costs, but it also means a larger addressable market and more wealth creation. The immigrants work and they buy things and they make the pie higher, to borrow a Bushism. Your picture of the economy is stuck in mercantilism. But on this we can agree. 'Normal people' are not sharing in the wealth creation of this country to the extent they did in the postwar period, and the stress fractures are showing. The anti-immigrant sentiment is one of those, imo. But the anger is misdirected. American workers should not be concerned about their bargaining power vis-a-vis immigrants but instead against the bargaining power of shareholders. Immigrant labor is a tool companies can use to minimize labor costs, but it is only one and not even the main one. They have globalization, mechanization, digitization. They have regulatory policy and tax policy. And the best thing owners can hope for is that their workers fight amongst themselves for their share of the slice of the pie instead of demanding a bigger slice. I'm not saying our companies or equity-holders are the enemy. These are our engines of wealth creation. But we need policy that strengthens the total bargaining power of the whole labor force, not just their per capita bargaining power. That will mean shareholders will get lower returns but they should still get adequate returns. But the pay-off is that workers participate more in the benefits of the country's wealth, they can be more fully invested in as human capital, stave off more distress costs, and (perhaps most importantly for equity-owners) don't entertain extreme revolutionary political ideas.
It boggles my mind how middle class conservatives who bite on the anti-immigration red meat don't see see the rhetoric as the most obvious hand wave of "don't look up here where the bribing shareholders are" form of propaganda ever. Isn't it so blatantly obvious? Serious question for posters like @MojoMan and @dachuda86
Seems a shame that franklin graham chose this picture in his tweet... or was it a coincidence that of all the members of congress to point out, he chose a picture of Democrat congressmen, mostly women, and many of color. We should be praying (hoping for those who don't pray) that all of our elected representatives act in our best interests. I wonder what his father would think of this... Billy Graham personally pulled down ropes that separated white and black attendees at his crusades (though some believe Graham should have been more vocal).
A larger market doesn't translate to wealth for normal people. It means higher prices and more competition for limited jobs, and limited housing. You are not taking that into account. It is like you think like a rich person, but are you rich? Do you own a company that benefits from a larger market to sell things to?
Well, I don't know -- I guess we can just disagree. I don't think your view of how economics works is right. Wealth -- jobs and houses -- isn't limited; you use property and work to make more.
