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[WaPo] After a petition called Gandhi ‘racist,’ his statue was removed from the University of Ghana

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Dec 16, 2018.

  1. Os Trigonum

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    genuinely interested in what folks think about this

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...acist-his-statue-was-removed-university-ghana

     
  2. ThatBoyNick

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    Dayum, looking into this there's also claims that he had some serious pedophilia problems as well.

    There goes my hero.
     
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  3. Amiga

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    Wo, didn’t know his history's.

    People do change.
     
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    He’ll never host the Oscars now.
     
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    The Ouroboros is before us as the left eats its own.
     
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  6. CometsWin

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    Good for them.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    Stupid people on the fringe left being stupid people on the fringe left. They went beyond parody long ago and never looked back.
     
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  8. Senator

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    The culture a century ago in Asia was to get married at 13. You can't revise history to look at things with cultural norms from a century later.

    I am curious to know what Africans think of Nelson Mandela now, given his main influence was Gandhi.

    Colonial rule blurred the mentalities of everyone in the 20th century whether people want to admit it or not. Backwards thinking was the norm then, a lot of it religious based. Megan Markel is celebrated for marrying into a family that has written some of the most racist things ever (see late 19th and early 20th century writings on commonwealth lands), but that was simply what they were taught to believe.
     
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    What do you think about it?
     
  10. Buck Turgidson

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    In the end we're all human. Mother flipping Teresa was also rightly criticized (for some of her views on poverty and suffering).
     
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  11. Amiga

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    Obviously, Mandela and so many more are influenced by the bad version.
     
  12. Amiga

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    So the values and teaching of the good version of Gandhi is a left thing? Learn something new everyday.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    He's clearly talking about how the fools on the far left are getting caught up in a moral panic that will end up eating their own....just like it always does. Everyone will eventually be demonized when you are constantly looking for offense. It's funny that this new puritanism would come from the left, but given the rise of the authoritarian left, it's not terribly surprising. They've convinced themselves of their own moral superiority and seek to censor everyone else. If you know history, then you knew that it was always only a matter of time before they started hitting their own.
     
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    No one has a right to a statue. They aren't even destroying it, just moving it somewhere else.

    EDIT: In fact, I wonder what a statue of Gandhi was doing there anyways, what does he have to do with Ghana, in particular?

    It seems random to be there. Sort of like Jordan's jersey hanging in the rafters in Miami. We have a Gandhi statue too, but we put it in front of the Indian embassy, see, makes sense.

    I can understand then why they would want it removed since it has little to do with them. Doesn't seem like a left or right thing at all but of course, conservatives think everything is black-white, left-right.
     
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    The virtue signaling in your post proves my point. lol.
     
  16. Ottomaton

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    They should be able to collectively decide whether they want the statue or not without my opinion mattering.

    From my perspective, it's always a good lesson to be reminded that heroes are human and villains can have many aspects that aren't always monsterous. However I think most people will see right past that lesson.

    Mostly I think it doesn't matter what I think.
     
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    Time has always "changed" history. The more time that has passed between the present day and an historical era, or event, or the life of an historical figure, the more "different" they seem in the present day, and by present day standards, time often does no favors. I recall strolling in Bangalore's largest park in the mid-'60's, a much different Bangalore than what one would see today and less than 20 years after India got it's independence from the remnants of the British Empire, and coming across some large statues that had been placed, unharmed, in an obscure area behind some bushes. Walking up to them, I could see that they were larger than life statues of Queen Victoria, Albert, and several other famous, and not so famous figures from the British Raj. The care obviously used to remove them from where they once were and to place them out of the way, but intact, surprised me at the time. History surprises. If people learn anything from history, it should be that.
     
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    He probably was a racist, as were most people of that time relative the standards of today. Some of Einstein's writings about the Chinese that were uncovered recently also sound pretty ugly today.

    My view is you can still honor and celebrate a person's accomplishments and legacy without it meaning you condone everything they did or said. But who these people choose to honor really isn't any of my business.
     
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    I think that shows that while young marriage for women was basically 90% of marriage, that the men were only on average 2-5 years older when getting married at the same time. I have no idea about the customs of old men with little girls but I wouldn't be surprised if it was also considered okay. Just like how nobody blinks an eye when an 18-year-old dates men over 40 in today's society because tis legal.


    It's also possible all the pedophilia and racism accusations stemmed from one of his opponents, I just don't know nearly enough about any of this.
     

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