how about you respond to the part about our nation's appetite for illicit drugs regardless of their illegality as being directly responsible for this debacle? own up to the fact that the politicians you support continue to endorse an inane policy that has costs trillions of dollars and millions of lives bc it continues to line their pockets while they convince the less educated/bigoted amongst us that band aid "solutions" like building walls and outlawing "sanctuary cities" is what will cure these ills.
That's not exactly true, just because US citizens enjoy taking drugs doesn't mean that Mexico has to allow the drug trade through their country. They have to take responsibility for what they allow to happen. It's very similar to this caravan nonsense, if they didn't allow them to tear down their walls and parade through their country, they wouldn't be stuck dealing with them now. Mexico is a sovereign nation and as such they are responsible for what goes on in their country, not the US. When it comes to illegal immigration, building physical borders and outlawing "sanctuary cities" would be a really solid start towards fixing the problem, I'm not sure how you could even argue otherwise.
no problem, amigo, just come with me to sinaloa and you can conduct your own research. nothing better than first hand observation corroborated with decades and decades of research (which you've apparently missed).
so mexico has to "take responsibility for what they allow happen" while we do what exactly? do you know how much money is made off the illegal drug trade in that country off of america alone? are you familiar with how free-markets work? so long as there is an estimated $20-$30BN demand the cartels will find a way. this notion that we live in a vacuum and that artificial borders somehow prevent commerce is hilarious. the problem starts with an unfettered demand for illegal goods. starting anywhere else is stupid.
Certainly the American appetite for drugs is part of the problem. Also part of the problem is Mexican citizens willingness/desire start drug syndicates and enter into these drugs wars which have ravaged the country. Nobody in the USA made them or is making them do it. Also part of the problem is the lawlessness which has been made possible be weak/corrupt central governance which has been a hallmark of Mexico since it's independence in 1821. From my understanding of Mexican political history, Mexico has seen dictator after dictator, coup after coup and legitimate free and fair elections have been too far and few between. Plenty of blame to go around.
While the US does the same..... Suggesting that since there is money to be made by doing something doesn't mean that people have no choice but to do it. Either you view Mexico as a sovereign nation, or you view them as a child that can't be held accountable for their actions. If you take the latter view, then the US should ignore their borders and march in and take out the cartels for them and officially set up Mexico as nothing more than a vassal. If you view them as a sovereign nation, it's on them to keep their people in check. Personally I think the whole drug war is stupid and should end, but the principle of treating Mexico as a sovereign nation is what I'm arguing. A sovereign nation can't say "It's not our fault, we can't control what our people do"
You are dumb and weak. That is just like you saying the guy who sleeps with your wife or girl friend should take the responsibility to not do that to her.
LOL when you feel like you have to turn to personal attacks, you've lost already. As to a guy who slept with my wife or girl, I would absolutely hold them responsible for their actions as I would hold my wife or girlfriend responsible for theirs. If a guy knew that a woman was my wife or girlfriend, he'd catch a beating if he slept with her.....is that not the case with you? Would you just suggest that it's not his fault or something? I'd argue that's a pretty dumb and weak way to handle that situation....but to each their own I suppose.
Sorry, but I can't get behind that we are the real problem behind Mexico's problems. Their govt has failed them for decades. We aren't responsible for them having a derelict govt. The people in power there are the clear and obvious culprits. Completely unrelated, but when I was down there I liked how I saw prices of basic medical procedures advertised.
Serious question: Are most Trumpsters with their hysteria, about immigrants fostered by Dear Leader, deathly afraid to go to Cancun cause those rapists i.e Mexcians will get them?
Mexico City is an awesome place. Truly my favorite destination to visit from Texas. It takes less than 2 hours by plane!
Curbing cartel violence on the border is something Obama doesn't get enough credit for. The violence seems to have moved south but it doesn't define Mexico
