The African Population Explosion we are too scared to talk about

FTR I'm not scared to talk about it, just not yet interested enough.

 

1. He answered the question in his 2 posts DIRECTLY above yours.

2. It is his business..it is ALL of our business. It's typically Conservatives who believe we should stay out of others countries business..but they are dead wrong. We're in a global economy now, so what one country does has a snowballing effect on the world.

if you would have actually read his statements and maybe even watched the Melinda Gates video, you would have seen this. Instead, it seems like you were more interested in attacking Senator personally than addressing his thoughts on the matter.

 

People have been talking about the problem of overpopulation for decades. Heck I remember learning about it since like 5th grade social studies in the 80's. But like the the graph showed, Asia (China and India) will be peaking soon and their populations will actually begin decreasing. China DID address this waaaayyy back in the 1970's when they begin forbidding people to have more than 1 child.

I agree with Senator (which I don't do very often) in that we need to provide and urge contraceptive use in countries with high populous / high poverty places. Even in this country we still need to urge contraceptive use especially in low-income areas where they are under-utilized.

 

I see going over to those countries with those agendas
should be met just like the Missionary going to that Island

What they do it not your business.
Typical American mentality . . . we raped and pillaged the earth to rise to power
now wants to shake fingers at other nations that want to do the same

This is another situation where the 'Great White Man" is going over there to teach "The Savages"
for totally selfish reasons.

They literally don't give a d*mn about them people
except
1. What "they" can do for "you"
2. What "they" are doing and how it effects me.

Dress it up all you want. . . but this is social colonialism and exporting your 'values and morality' to places that ain't asking


Rocket River

 

I know all that but just doesn't make sense to me. Living people judging and deciding fates of non-living people is the most arrogant unnatural thing ever.

 

They shouldn't have is my point and my point was obvious so I'm not impressed. A better life for those who get to live it over a worse life never lived. Arrogant piece of **** thinking right there. Also you call me fanatic, ROFL!!! I'm like the most anti-god person on this forum. Has nothing to do with god bro. Has to to with the human species being the most arrogant living thing on this planet.

 

In my experience, living people have better judgement than non-living people.

 

the U.S. spent over $2 Billion in aid to Africa in 2016 alone - A very large share of that was to fight the AIDS epidemic.
So you're saying we should just let them die of AIDS? Sounds to me, that you "don't give a d*mn about them people" as you said.

Keeping people from dying of diseases and famine is NOT social colonialism..it's downright just. It's the epitome of caring about someone else.

 

Cute and exactly my point. Judgement itself is a human construct that has nothing to do with evolution and nature. Let people use their evolutionary traits as they see fit so long as they don't violate someone else in the process. But to force or dictate to natural evolved beings to do something that violates their nature is wrong. Id rather focus on fixing poverty and let people use their evolution to their hearts delight.

 

Did you miss the part where I said if it destroys the planet so be it? That's coming from someone who has children as well. IMO it's not our place as a species to be so arrogant as to think we have dominion over this universe, planet, animals, and other humans. Like I said, let everyone fack and make babies it's their natural right. Instead let's focus on making sure their babies have food and shelter, live a "good" life. Much more natural and altruistic then telling certain races or peoples that they shouldn't or can't procreate.

 

I was just making a joke and I don't necessarily disagree with you but when the issue gets murky is when people continue to do harmful things to themselves while continuing to ask for handouts. You can't "fix poverty" while allowing people to continue doing the things that causes poverty to worsen.

Poverty is a result of scarcity and you only make things worse with overpopulation.

 

For me I don't care, but others do. It shows how you feel and that's fine. The way you posted it wasn't done in a comical fashion either, so it doesn't matter that is from the Onion. It's like Roseanne comparing Valerie Jarrett to someone from the Planet of the Apes. It's just not funny and it will only serve to piss people off.

And yeah I do get it that this thread is really borderline considering the OP and considering his innuendo. That said he stated people were afraid to talk about this topic and clearly no one is afraid, but it isn't known to many people that Nigeria and Africa as whole are going to experience a population explosion. It is going to present many problems when you look at the post colonial trajectory that most African governments and nations have been on. It doesn't look like there is sufficient planning for what they are about to be living with over the next 50 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projections_of_population_growth

https://www.theguardian.com/global-...in-africa-grasping-the-scale-of-the-challenge

...more in the link....

Meanwhile, another key demographic variable – the number of children the average African woman is likely to have in her lifetime, or total fertility rate – remains elevated compared to global rates. The total fertility rate of Africa is 88% higher than the world standard (2.5 children per woman globally, 4.7 children per woman in Africa).

In Niger, where GDP per capita is less than $1 per day, the average number of children a woman is likely to have in her life is more than seven. Accordingly, the country’s current population of 20 million is projected to grow by 800,000 people over the next 12 months. By mid-century, the population may have expanded to 72 million people and will still be growing by 800,000 people – every 18 weeks. By the year 2100, the country could have more than 209 million people and still be expanding rapidly. This projectionis based on an assumption that Niger’s fertility will gradually fall to 2.5 children over the course of the century. If fertility does not fall at all – and it has not budged in the last 60 years – the country’s population projection for 2100 veers towards 960 million people.

As recently as 2004, the United Nations’ expected Africa to grow only to 2.2 billion people by 2100. That number now looks very out of date.
What has caught demographers off-guard – and has required such dramatic revisions – is that African fertility has not fallen as expected. Precipitous declines in fertility in Asia and Latin America, from five children per woman in the 1970s to around 2.5 today, led many to believe Africa would follow a similar course....

....A few heroic efforts, such as Family Planning 2020, are attempting to stimulate family planning programmes across the continent, and there are some signs of success. Recent figures from Kenya and Zambia show substantial strengthening of contraceptive use among married women. In Kenya, 58% of married women now use modern contraception, and in Zambia this measure has risen from 33% to 45% in the last three years.

 

well if china is the dominant power, they probably will.

And they have a lot of people that could use them.

 

fertility rate is exponentially correlated with infant death rate, they need kids to take care of them as they get older, and the more likely the kids are to die, the more they have, and this is a correlation that runs all the way through humanity.

 

Very predictable that you like the rest would continue to perpetuate these lies. This universe and planet provide plenty for us and population has nothing to do with poverty as a root cause. The reason so many have so little is because so few have it all. Do yourself a favor and stop believing in lies that say there isn't enough for everyone.