The only player available so far come January is Kevin Love

This settles it. Avoid like the plague!!!

 

The only Cav who held their own vs. the warriors the past couple of years was Lebron and everybody else was trash which is why the cavs went 1-8 the past 2 years vs. the warriors.

It’s not about adding an “all-star of that shoots and rebounds” it’s about adding an aging injury prone slow unathletic PF that makes over $30 million a year that shoots like trash against our main rival.

The rockets would have to completely gut an already thin and we would have to trade guys like pj and Gordon to even have a chance of accommodating love.

So our bench gets worse plus we would love our best defender and have to play harden and love together?

Y’all thought the rockets were bad defensively with harden and melo on the court together you haven’t seen anything yet.

 

A lot of pretenders willing to get better out there...you might be right but eh, we'll see i guess.

 

The problem with trading for Love is:

(1) he won't get the team to championship level this year. For one, you will have to send something of value out. In a best case scenario I guess its just Knight plus contract filler plus a draft pick. But even then, he is injury prone, and doesn't play defense.

(2) his contract is horrendous.

Now, sure, #2 is mitigated if you are saying "This is it, got to go all in this year!!!". And sure, I get that.

But consider... if they fall short this year, next year you are on the hook for 3 more years of CP3 at $40+ at 34 yo+, and 4 more years of Kevin Love at $28-$31 million a year, at 31 yo+. Both players are likely to give you 60-65 regular season games max. Meanwhile Harden turns 30.

That all said, in DM's risk it all strategy, and really go all in and try and get these guys 1 ring this year or next and Tilman paying for it, etc...

... if that's the best option, that's the best option. When he is healthy, he has been a great stretch 4 at volume, rebounds like crazy, can pass the ball, and at least understands defensive concepts.

 

If we want to just say "screw it and go for it" - I can get on board with that BUT not for a large contract that we're tied to for four years. Once the window is closed we will have put ourselves in double jeopardy (no assets and large lingering contracts). You can live with one or the other.

If we want to go for it that is by definition a short-window mentality, so we should get short-window risks.

Kevin Love isn't justifiable even in a win-now scenario due to his new contract extension, unfortunately.

 

I seriously doubt any advanced stats show that Love would be a crucial addition in terms of beating the warriors.

This narrative that Tilman is somehow blocking every move because of money needs to die. It's not a useful argument nor do I believe it has any merit.

 

If you can get him for just garbage (i.e. Knight, Chriss, etc) plus two 1st rounders (one protected, the other not), then I say go for it. It would be a high variance move that would tremendously help with our spacing and rebounding. Moving Tucker to SF and Ennis to the bench would be huge. You're probably using Love some at center as well, reducing your reliance on Hartenstein. Getting Gerald Green out of the rotation and replacing him with an all-star? Yes please. Y'all are acting like we're light years behind the Warriors - not true. If Kevin Love was playing last night instead of House we win by 20 no problem.

 

I've liked Love in the past. But I am up and down on him.

If the Rockets were to invest in Love, that would mean to me their goal would be playing Love at the 5 with PJ at the 4. I don't see PJ out there playing the 3 with Love and Capela.

Ideally, having someone to plug in that can play with Harden/CP/Tucker would be best. Butler fit that to a T. Otto Porter would fit that.

Love either pushes Capela out. Or moves PJ to the 3. Does that maximize the Rockets?

 

In order for the Rockets (and any team) to take on a 120,000,000 commitment, you better believe that the owner will have to be on board. It is a 5 year commitment with huge luxury tax ramifications and will likely trigger the repeater tax. So yeah, that hypothetically would be a trade that Tilman is 100% behind or it doesn't happen.

 

They would get creative, and Tucker could play some minutes at the 3. He actually often times was guarding 3's last year while Ariza would end up on 4's.

It would be a desperate move if it happened. Love makes a lot of money, is injured a lot and has had other issues. He is far from a perfect fit.

I don't even think he is available in trade right now, and if he is, I cannot see Tilman paying Love 120 million over the next 5 years.

 

Careful how you word things there, hoss.

I just don't know if our third $30,000,000+ guy should be Love. Not to go cheap on who we bring in; but the dike has sprung too many leaks for the Little Dutch Morey to plug with an oft-injured overpaid sometimes-All Star. Plus I don't think there's enough of this team worth throwing behind Kevin Love by the time mid-January rolls around and Love can be dealt.

 

Everyone just remember that this is the guy that would not trade PJ Tucker for Jimmy Butler!

 

You see tonight how we lost because Cp3 is injured. Love while pretty decent while healthy is never really healthy, he always has a nagging injury he is playing through whether its a sore thumb or aching knee or w/e. Trading for him is gonna close the window on Harden's prime I mean c'mon the dude is due for a season ending injury any time now.

I would rather trade for a guy like Otto Porter. Sure he isn't a star level player and he is paid too much but he guaranteed to be healthy and can take minutes like an ox.

 

Love went 16/11/2/2/1 in the 2017 Finals against GS.
I do agree at this point with such little depth they might be better off to add a few players instead of blowing the entire wad on one guy.
A healthy Love would def help this bunch though esp with a 'rim protector' such as Capela next to him. I understand how a few big wings would be the better way to go esp with Harden.

 

1 for 1? Sure I would. 100 percent of the time. Stop lying.

Tucker/Gordon for Butler? Now we have to have a tough conversation.

 

Kevin Love is a consistent no show in the playoffs. Do we really need a better version of Ryan Anderson here for what it will cost to get him?

 

damn... KLove would be dope if he was Minny Love... He's nothing but a shell of what he used to be & will only bring more heartache to us... just like our super star max contract CP3 sitting on the shelf... one is enough...