Vote with your dollars (saw this on slashdot.org) http://www.amazon.com/gp/misc/flag.html/002-0770955-1513664 Kucinich. I actually agree with almost all of his stances on major issues. Who voted for Sharpton? Apparently his stances agree with Kucinich, it's just Sharpton has a pretty despicable past. Are yall trying to Cowboy Neal this poll?
why is this guy not on the poll?? Al Hamburg Al Hamburg really detests two thing: illegal aliens and "dopers". He's not too crazy about big business and special interests either, but the vast bulk of his campaign statements revolve around ridding the U.S. of undocumented alien and smuggled drugs and these issues form his simple platform: "Stop the illegal alien and dope invasions from Mexico - Pull troops out of Korea, put them on US/Mexico border." This 68 year old Independent is a 20 year Army veteran who served in both Korea and VietNam before becoming a house painter in Wyoming. Perhaps living in Hell Town, Wy explains some of his very feisty attitude. His 2000 campaign is not Hamburg's first venture into the political area. He has run for office, unsuccessfully, a total of twelve times, including campaigns for Congress, Governor and the U.S. Senate and proudly refers to himself as the "very independent "Unpopular" candidate." Hamburg is moderate on some issues, supporting first-trimester abortion and opposing gun control without being rancorous about it. He is clear and straightforward about his belief in the separation of church and state. Most of his fire is saved for the illegal immigrant issue and his finger points first and foremost south to Mexico, though he opposes virtually all immigration, foreign aid and affirmative action as discriminating against white workers. He's also a long-standing foe of big corporations, particularly mining companies and anything he sees as a special interest with politicians in their pockets. He blasts the importation of illegal drugs and would sterilize all dopers (as well as illegal immigrants.) The problem with this rhetoric is that he doesn't define his terms, so that it's unclear if he is referring to heroin users, crack cocaine addicts or mar1juana smokers and proposes to ship everyone in the doper category across the border into Mexico. This seems like an untenable proposition at best and impossible to implement given the vagueness of his definitions. Whatever one's personal position about the drug problem, it is hard to view Hamburg as having a workable solution as opposed to a personal vendetta. Dark Horse 2000 predicts that his 13th political campaign will have much the same result as his first 12.
Good point. I'd like to hear why Bush supporters want to vote for him, instead of defending him against what his detractors say or slamming the Democratic candidates or Democrats in general. Hey, I know some of you may of done it before, but why not refresh our memory? Glad you're back, mc mark. Life can get demanding, can't it.
Wow. Latest NH poll from American Research Group: Kerry 34 Clark 19 Dean 15 Edwards 13 Lieberman 6 Kucinich 1 Undecided 12 Latest from WMUR out of NH: Kerry 37 Dean 19 Clark 15 Edwards 11 Lieberman 8 Kucinich 3 Major upward momentum for Kerry, lesser upward momentum for Edwards, steady downward slide for Dean and virtually no movement for Clark or Lieberman. After NH, bye to Lieberman or shame on him. He'll be out after the next round either way. Feb. 3 won't help Dean if he doesn't finish first or very strong second in NH, so he's either out Tuesday or Feb. 3, barring a miracle over the next three days. I predict Edwards keeps moving up in NH and finishes 3rd or maybe even 2nd. That turns Feb. 3 into a last chance for Edwards or Clark to compete with Kerry. If Kerry runs the board (or comes close) on Feb. 3, the Clark-Edwards VP race begins (with Graham and maybe Bill Richardson as dark horses). p.s. Rasmussen has Bush-Kerry at 46-40 and Bush losing by a point to an unnamed Democrat. This election's gonna be awesome.
Latest OK polls... parentheses are from mid-Dec. A definite Iowa effect in play... Clark 32% (34) Edwards 23% (8) Kerry 17% (4) Dean 10% (21) Lieberman 8% (11)
Oklahoma? Wow, Edwards and Kerry both got a hell of a bounce. Clark is holding steady. I'd like to know what states like Florida and Louisiana, southern states in play this fall, show for the 4 contenders.
Latest AZ poll... pre-Iowa... Clark 39% Dean 32% Lieberman 8% Kerry 5% And, CA, post-Iowa... Kerry 31% Dean 26% Clark 14% Edwards 12% Other 11% Undecided 5% And, Illinois, pre-Iowa... Dean 29% Gephardt 16% Moseley-Braun 14% Clark 13% Kerry 7% Edwards 6% Lieberman 5% Sharpton 4% Kucinich 1% Undecided 6%
Deckard: As of 1/17 Rasmussen has Bush leading an unnamed Democrat in Florida 47-45, well within the margin of error. He was beating Dean by 15 there. My guess is that it'll be competitive but, even though it's so close even now, Bush has the edge. If Graham's on the ticket the edge shifts to the Democrat. If it's Kerry, don't underestimate the impact of the veteran vote which will go his way over Bush. If it's Edwards he might get a slight boost from being from a neighboring state. rimrocker: Where's the OK poll from? mrpaige: Don't keep us in suspense.
By the way, I got home and my house was plastered with Clark signs. That, coupled with your shame, made me tag Clark, though I'm still going to waiit until after NH to mark my absentee caucus vote. Good night ever'body.
It's facinating how an "unnamed Democrat" keeps beating Bush, even if by a narrow margin, and when he runs against one of the announced candidates he does anywhere from slightly better to much better, depending on the guy. This tells me that once the Democrats settle on the nominee, as long as he's appealing and doesn't come across as immoderate, that fellow has an excellent chance. When you consider how little most of the country knows about them, it's pretty impressive. I think the majority is hungry for a different President. They just need to see a good alternative.
See but that is very scary in my mind. People aren't voting for someone, their voting against another...which leaves the door open for any demagogue to get in who just says the right things to appease those that are so mad. I'm afraid this will be tragic for the nation.
I don't know. I would think that if they were simply voting against someone (Bush), the numbers would be fairly constant regardless of who the other candidate is. I think it's more like they're open to the concept of voting for someone other than Bush. When the door is left open to their imagination (the unnamed Democrat scenario), they imagine a candidate they would vote for in a heartbeat. But any of the candidates running would be a compromise candidate, so that switches them over to the other side or into the undecideds. Part of that is probably simply not knowing all that much about a given candidate. There are a lot of people who probably haven't been all that tuned in to the campaign so far enough to really know what the assorted candidates are standing for.
Newsweek: Kerry's beating Bush http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4049942 Newsweek Poll: And They're Off Kerry surges to the head of the pack, beating even Bush in a hypothetical election. But the Democratic horserace is still far from over WEB EXCLUSIVE By Brian Braiker Updated: 2:30 p.m._ET Jan. 24, 2004 Jan. 24 - Riding high on his victory in the Iowa caucus—and benefiting from former Vermont governor Howard Dean’s embarrassing “I have a scream” speech—Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry has surged to the head of the pack of democratic presidential hopefuls, according to the latest NEWSWEEK poll, commanding 30 percent of support from registered Democrats, up from 11 percent two weeks ago. And for the first time in the poll's history a Democrat is enjoying a marginal advantage over President George W. Bush. In a hypothetical face-off, Kerry commanded a three-point lead over the president. Dean’s support among registered and likely Democrats, meanwhile, has been cut in half, to 12 percent. That puts him in three-way tie for second place in the Jan. 27 New Hampshire primary with retired Gen. Wesley Clark (12 percent) and North Carolina Sen. John Edwards (13 percent). Despite having delivered a State of the Union address that was well received by his conservative core, Bush’s own standing has slipped among registered voters. "Because of American leadership and resolve, the world is changing for the better," he declared Tuesday. But more people now say they are dissatisfied (52 percent) than satisfied (43 percent) with the way things are going in the United States, down from a post-9/11 peak last April of 50 percent satisfied. And even thought Bush used the State of the Union to emphasize his controversial tax cuts, Medicare overhaul, opposition to gay marriage and a burgeoning economic rebound,_ Bush saw his job performance ratings dip to 50 percent approval (versus 44 percent who disapprove)—his most negative ratings to date—suggesting a nation sharply divided over the president and his policies. To be sure, Bush is just as solidly backed by Republicans (85 percent) as he is opposed by Democrats (86 percent). Overall, 52 percent of those polled by NEWSWEEK say they would not like to see Bush serve a second term, compared to 44 percent who want to see him win again in November. As a result, Kerry is enjoying a marginal advantage over Bush, a first for the poll. Forty-nine percent of registered voters chose Kerry, compared to 46 percent who re-elected Bush. In fact, all Democrats are polling better against Bush, perhaps due to increased media attention to their primary horserace: Clark gets 47 percent of voters’ choice compared to 48 percent from Bush; Edwards has 46 percent compared to Bush’s 49; Leiberman wins 45 percent versus Bush’s 49 percent; and Dean fares the worst with 45 percent of their votes to Bush’s 50 percent. Still, voters question the ultimate electablility of anyone other than Bush in November. Seventy-eight percent of them feel it is either somewhat or very likely that Bush will be re-elected in the fall. Kerry appears to Democrats to be most electable out of the bunch, with 48 percent believing he was a good chance at defeating Bush (32 percent believe he has at least some chance). Before Iowa, 38 percent of registered Democrats thought Dean had a good shot against Bush, but that figure has dropped to 26 percent after Iowa. Electability matters to voters in choosing a candidate—although more (53 percent) say they would support a candidate who reflects their own views, 39 percent do want someone who will realistically end up supplanting Bush. So while John Kerry has become the most popular Democrat in the race (with 54 percent of all voters, and 74 percent of Democrats viewing him favorably), the race is far from over. After New Hampshire—which plays to Kerry’s New England roots, not to mention Dean’s strengths as its neighbor’s former governor—the primary race moves southbound, stopping in South Carolina and Oklahoma, among other states. Despite grumblings among party faithful that Kerry may not be paying enough attention to South Carolina, he did pick up an endorsement from Sen. Ernest F. Hollings on Friday._ Still, South Carolina is the birth-state of John Edwards. And whereas Kerry enjoys much more support in the north (with 32 percent of Democrats endorsing him compared to just 10 and 11 for Edwards and Clark respectively), the lead is winnowed away below the Mason-Dixon. Kerry still leads in the south with support from 24 percent of registered Democrats, but Edwards (18 percent) and Clark (16 percent) are not far behind. Finally, Edwards is emerging as a popular alternative among all voters. He has gone from 27 percent favorable ratings (and 25 percent unfavorable) in December to 46 percent favorable and 23 percent not. Among Democrats, his ratings are close to Kerry’s at 60 percent favorable.
