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Megyn Kelly forgot she isn't on Foxnews anymore

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Air Langhi, Oct 25, 2018.

  1. zcarenow

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    she probably needs some bbc.
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Yeah, that is entertainment making fun of people who don't have a history of being mocked, belittled, falsely stereotyped and dehumanized. So there is no weight to that entertainment.

    I looked up whiteface costumes and saw nothing really common or bad there.

    And I agree, we shouldn't live in the past. So in order to do that, moving on from blackface would be a good idea.

    If you want to talk about equal then fine. But let's be clear... A black person dressing in whiteface isn't in any way equal to a white person using blackface.
     
  3. Senator

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    Race relations were never worse than at the end of Obama's tenure. A big reason why swing voters committed to trump. A nice guy, but not much of a leader. You have to specifically go after violence, not everyone will excel at academics, but everyone can be of value with the right mentality. That notion gets everyone to buy in. The narrative of non accountability and it's not our fault we commit violent crimes that the stereotype exists. The stats back it up.

    What would you say is the minimum amount of $, annually, an adult over 21 needs to live a life of dignity?
     
  4. Senator

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    Better to be safe than sorry. Until the stats come down, I dont see any reason that will change.

    The constitution cop out is played out.

    When 6% of anything commit 60% of a horrible atrocity, then safe rather than sorry will apply to cops who's lives are on the line every day, and are far more likely to be shot by a black Male then a black male is to be shot by them.
     
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    Where’s the fake outrage?
     
  6. JayGoogle

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    This makes no sense.

    These numbers don't mean anything since they are so small in retrospect. You could use these stats on ANY group and still come to this same stupid conclusion.

    You can divide it by gender, you can divide by intraracial crime, you can divide it by anything and come to this conclusion. This means the logic you've used to reach this conclusion is faulty...at best.

    Also, the 'constitution' cop out lol...yes, let's just ignore laws so that we can stereotype black people.
     
  7. Senator

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    Why don't you get it? Why aren't you trying to get it? Are you trying to prove you don't have the IQ to engage in adult conversation but deserve opportunities regardless?

    When you talk about Kanye, are you taking his opinions seriously or mocking him? If you are taking them seriously because he's a "celebrity", then you're a part of the problem. In the same way, I don't care about Megyn Kelly as a credible talking point - because she isn't. She's reality tv and not something I would discuss with colleagues or friends.

    Link me once again to the post with the links, I am having glitches ..empty ad space taking up page.. throughout. I will respond bit by bit.
     
  8. Senator

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    Honestly... you are wrong, entitled and enabling bad behavior.

    You can't use those stats on any other group and get those ridiculous proportions. Poor whites don't come close, but you've said it's because they are more spread out and not in clusters. While I agree integration is important, nothing is more important than those violent numbers coming down. The biggest threat to minorities is not right wing whites, or horrible racists, or jew haters... but African Americans. Based on the stats.

    I cannot convince those in low income communities (whites, asians and hispanics) to integrate until they do. When the stats go down, opportunities will go up. I am looking at the way to make a change, not make excuses to avoid it. Do you or do you not agree with that?
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You make statements that have no basis in reality. Race relations were never worse than at the end of Obama's tenure? Wow. That's a shocking thing to say without anything to back that up.

    If you don't address the underlying factors behind the violence and poverty no amount of money will fix things. Dignity isn't about $x, it's about self-respect and believing in yourself.

    You have to open your mind because you have the wrong narrative. And unless you are willing to be open minded and reconsider - to accept the possibility that you may be wrong, then nothing can progress here in this conversation. You aren't open. You think you are right based on your casual searches on the internet and right-wing blogs you read. You've got it all figured out and under the psychology of a people you never even speak to.
     
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  10. tallanvor

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    Lester Holt, who works for NBC, doing white face of Susan boyle. Nobody cares. They shouldn't care, but Kelly was fired for just asking if what Holt is doing is ok. What exactly are NBCs rules?

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    Guess she should have looked up the definition of blackface before she decided to make a piece about it. Might have been smart for a media personality to understand the topic before a discussion.
     
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    Would you agree with random, repeated searches of young white males because they are more likely to engage in school shootings?

    Or more random stops and invasive searches of white males because statistically they are far more likely to be serial killers.

    I get that you hold your views earnestly but when they are based on "the Constitution is a cop out", you are throwing out a bedrock principle of our system.

    Just as an aside, how do you feel about the Second Amendment and is using it in gun control discussions a cop-out?
     
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  13. JayGoogle

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    You can do both at once...

    So the only thing you talk about with colleagues or friends is serious political discussions?

    Sounds like a person I wouldn't enjoy being around but more power to you.

    Apparently, if black people don't talk about black on black crime every day all day then they are part of the issue or something?

    This is a thread, it's about Megyn Kelly, if you really don't want to talk about her then ignore the thread and make a thread about a subject you want to talk about.

    here goes your link, it's a long article that makes the case that black people are failed by the criminal justice system...
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-proof/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2cef69dfa6b1

    Here are important factoids from it...
    • They found that blacks were more likely to be searched despite the fact they’re less likely to be found with contraband as a result of those searches.
    • According to figures from the National Registry of Exonerations (NER) black people are about five times more likely to go to prison for drug possession than white people. According to exoneration data, black people are also 12 times more likely to be wrongly convicted of drug crimes.
    • Black people comprise 20 percent of the Harris County population but made up 62 percent of the wrongful drug convictions.
    • Data from the U.S. Sentencing Commission last year found that when black men and white men commit the same crime, black men on average receive a sentence almost 20 percent longer. The research controlled for variables such as age and prior criminal history.
    • A 2016 review of nearly 474,000 criminal cases in Hampton Roads, Va., found that whites were more likely to get plea deals that resulted in no jail time for drug offenses. While facing charges of drug distribution, 48 percent of whites received plea bargains with no jail time, vs. 22 percent of blacks. Among those with prior criminal records who pleaded guilty to robbery, 36 percent of whites got no jail time, vs. 8 percent of blacks.
    I think you get the gist, it's basically a long list of studies listed here and even dissenting studies. You seem to be a big fan of stats...

    Also, open it up through a private/incognito mode to avoid the paywall.

    Sure you can. 88% of men commit murder compared to females. All men should be stereotyped.

    Actually, I don't agree with that. These murders are not spread out, they are in gang hot spots. It's not something systemic in every black community. I've always said this but maybe someone else said that and you are confusing me for them at the moment.

    I don't think you are looking to make a change, or a positive one, you're just cherry picking stats and playing with numbers and then using those numbers to justify black people being stereotyped.

    I think the part you're missing is the data from above. That black people are often, compared to other groups, wrongfully convicted...so what do those stats mean? Do they take into account the wrongfully convicted?
     
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    ur being intellectually dishonest,

    Holt was specifically impersonating Susan Boyle, including singing, which is what she is famous for
     
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    Go watch the megan kelly video . She asks if doing blackface is ok to honor a singer you like.
     
  17. adoo

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    you need to stop lying
     
  18. tallanvor

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    She talks about dressing up and darkening your skin to look like Diana Ross for Halloween. Go watch the video. Direct quote

    "There was a controversy on The Real Housewives of New York with Luann, and she dressed as Diana Ross, and she made her skin look darker than it really is and people said that that was racist," Kelly said. "And I don't know, I felt like who doesn't love Diana Ross? She wants to look like Diana Ross for one day. I don't know how, like, that got racist on Halloween."

    This is literally what lester holt did (just whiteface instead) and he wasn't fired.
     
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  19. adoo

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    tallanover needs to stop lying; who does he think he is, donald Trump ?
     
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  20. tallanvor

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    What lie? I quoted kelly.
     

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