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Ever wondered what an ARENA would look like in Brooklyn for the Nets???

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  1. tigereye

    tigereye Member

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    The plans were unveiled today.............

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    Brooklyn Courts the Nets
    By Glenn Thrush
    Staff Writer

    December 10, 2003, 7:28 PM EST


    If only Nets home games were as well-attended, star-studded or boisterous as Brooklyn's bid to woo the team from the swamps of New Jersey to the corner of Flatbush and Atlantic avenues.

    At an event that was part planning session and part pep rally, developers Wednesday unveiled a $2.5-billion proposal to build an arena and housing complex above the Atlantic Avenue rail hub in Fort Greene. Superstar architect Frank Gehry joined Brooklyn-bred rapper Jay-Z, who is part of the project's investment group, ex-Knick and Net Bernard King and Mayor Michael Bloomberg to sell the Nets on relocating to Brooklyn.

    The parcel was unsuccessfully pitched for a new Ebbets Field in the late '50s, and Wednesday's plan could meet the same fate if developer Bruce Ratner fails to outbid other suitors for the NBA team.

    "We are going to get the Nets to Brooklyn if it's the last thing I do," promised Ratner, who said the team will decide its ownership in the next 60 days.

    "I'm in love with the whole thing," said Jay-Z, who wouldn't disclose how much he'll invest. "Let's get the Nets."

    So far, Ratner has outbid a New Jersey-based partnership that includes developer Charles Kushner and Sen. Jon Corzine (D-N.J.).

    Ratner, who developed the Metrotech complex in Downtown Brooklyn, vowed that ticket prices would be kept low enough to attract low- and middle-income hoops fans.

    Gehry's preliminary plans for a 19,000-seat arena would not require public financing, city officials said. Instead, the project would be funded by Ratner, his investors and tax revenue from 4,500 residential units and more than 2 million square feet of commercial and retail space.

    The project would generate several hundred jobs, said Brooklyn Borough President Marty Markowitz.

    Gehry, who designed the Guggenheim Museum in Bilbao, Spain, and Los Angeles' Disney Hall, would cloak the arena in sail-like outer walls and vast, glass-sheathed common areas visible from the street.

    "It's not going to be a walled-in arena, it's going to be very open, very accessible," Gehry said.

    The arena has drawn community opposition because it will require the city to raze part of the adjacent Park Slope neighborhood, displacing businesses and at least 100 residents.

    "It is going to destroy our neighborhood," said community activist Patti Hagan, one of a dozen demonstrators outside Borough Hall Wednesday. "These kinds of stadiums, they are boondoggles, they do not help the economy."


    story link.......
     
    #1 tigereye, Dec 10, 2003
  2. UTweezer

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    pipe dream, it'll never happen. Too much red-tape
     
    #2 UTweezer, Dec 10, 2003
  3. tigereye

    tigereye Member

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    Actually, this might happen...........

    For one, the project's cost will be paid by the private sector.

    And with the investors they have, the have the deep pockets to pull this off........

    Remember, one Bob McNair and his ownership group spent almost $1 Billion dollars to get an NFL team back in Houston, a team that only plays 10 dates a year in its facility.

    In the Brooklyn Nets deal, they have a star-studded lineup of deep pocket investors to pull this off, which Bob McNair did not have. And the team will play 42 home dates plus playoffs and concerts and ice shows..... all to go along with revenue made form retail and developement as part of the plan.

    So in short...........its no pipe dream, it definitly can happen.
     
    #3 tigereye, Dec 10, 2003
  4. tigereye

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    And in case if any of you didnt notice, rapper JAY-Z has joined there ownership group.

    So now we've got Puffy designing the Mva's new alternate uniforms and "in" with Cuban.............and Jay-Z on the verge of buying the Nets.

    Could this be the start of a new "hip-hop" rivalry in basketball????
     
    #4 tigereye, Dec 11, 2003
  5. JuanValdez

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    I want Brooklyn to get the team. I just think it'b be cool all the way around. I am concerned though about the locals protesting it. Since I'm at all familiar with the borough, I don't know how legit their complaints are.
     
    #5 JuanValdez, Dec 11, 2003
  6. A-Train

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    I hope one of those buildings around the arena is a parking garage...That thing is squeezed in there pretty tightly...
     
    #6 A-Train, Dec 11, 2003
  7. SamFisher

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    I don't think this will happen, but if it did I would buy season tickets.
     
    #7 SamFisher, Dec 11, 2003
  8. Lil Pun

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    Introducing Your...Brooklyn Nets???

    Are the Nets Brooklyn-bound? Looks like it.

    The current owners of the NBA franchise have told real estate developer Bruce Ratner that they intend to sell the team to his investors' group for about $300 million, according to Bloomberg News.

    In December, the Nets and the Yankees announced a preliminary agreement to end their YankeesNets partnership. That gave Nets owners Lewis Katz and Ray Chambers the green light to sell the team.

    Ratner has said he plans to move the team from the Meadowlands sports complex to Brooklyn, where he would build a new arena.

    Newsday is also reporting that an announcement is imminent.

    When asked by ESPN.com on Thursday if a sale was imminent, both NBA commissioner David Stern and Phoenix Suns managing partner Jerry Colangelo, who is also chairman of the NBA board of governors, declined comment.

    New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Deputy Mayor Daniel Doctoroff were informed that Ratner's group, which includes rapper Jay-Z, is getting the team, one of the people familiar with the negotiations told Bloomberg.

    "There are a million details that have to be worked out with the NBA," a source told Newsday on Wednesday. "We're close, but it isn't going to be done tomorrow [Thursday], unless there's a small miracle."

    The proposed Brooklyn Arena and Brooklyn Atlantic Yards are a combined residential, retail and commercial space with 7.7 million square feet of space. The arena would seat 19,000 for basketball, and include 4,500 units of residential housing and 2.1 million square feet of commercial office space.

    Under the plan, development of the arena would begin this year. The completion of the project would be in time for the 2006-2007 NBA season; the team's lease in New Jersey expires in 2006.

    The Brooklyn arena would be located at the intersection of Flatbush and Atlantic avenues in downtown Brooklyn, near a major Long Island Rail Road terminal.

    The ambitious proposal has its local opposition. Patti Hagan, leader of the Prospect Heights Action Coalition, a group formed to combat the plan, told Newsday: "He's got a huge fight on his hands, because we are not going away."

    Ratner has said the project "will be almost exclusively privately financed" but officials have said some tax revenue could be pumped into the project.

    The Nets have advanced to the NBA Finals in the past two seasons, but the team is losing tens of millions of dollars a year, according to Newsday.

    The Nets are in first place in the Atlantic Division with a 21-15 record entering Thursday night's game against the Bucks in Milwaukee. In their home victory over the Wizards on Wednesday, the Nets drew just 9,778 fans.

    In November, Ratner initially bid $275 million for the team, the highest of four suitors.
     
    #8 Lil Pun, Jan 15, 2004
  9. SmeggySmeg

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    what are they're actual complaints
     
    #9 SmeggySmeg, Jan 15, 2004
  10. s land balla

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    i'm not too familiar with the borough of brooklyn (i've only been to manhattan every time i go to nyc)...i mean, i know it has a larger population than the city of houston and the borough of manhattan, but does brooklyn have an actual downtown area with skyscrapers and other tall buildings?
     
    #10 s land balla, Jan 15, 2004
  11. SamFisher

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    Yepp...though they're not that tall:

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    #11 SamFisher, Jan 15, 2004
  12. KingCheetah

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    Another article about the possible move from the Times pretty interesting - I bet New Jersey is hating this...

    The arena would be the centerpiece of a $2.5 billion commercial and residential development that would stretch for three blocks along Atlantic Avenue, one of the borough's two main thoroughfares.

    Mr. Ratner needs the state to condemn the properties not already owned by the railroad, as well as up to $150 million in government funds for streets and rail connections. The project faces stringent environmental reviews and local opposition, much of it from people who moved into what was a rough neighborhood 10 and 20 years ago and made it better.


    Dodgers? No Way! Brooklyn's Revival Is Betting on the Nets

    By CHARLES V. BAGLI and RICHARD SANDOMIR

    Published: January 16, 2004

    The revival of Brooklyn has been painfully slow, an effort eked out neighborhood by neighborhood, with chic new restaurants in Fort Greene, artists' lofts in Williamsburg, new businesses in industrial Red Hook and the transformation of derelict factory buildings into million-dollar condominiums in an area with the unlikely name of Dumbo.

    But the prospect of a professional basketball team moving across two rivers to Brooklyn seemed, until recently, as remote as shipbuilding returning to the sprawling Brooklyn Navy Yard complex. Now, Bruce Ratner, the developer, is negotiating to buy the New Jersey Nets and install the team in a glamorous new home designed by a world-renowned architect at the corner of Flatbush and Atlantic Avenues.

    For many residents, politicians and economists, a move by the Nets to Brooklyn would crystallize the rejuvenation of the borough and repudiate a 50-year cycle of decline that saw the departure of the Brooklyn Dodgers in 1957, the closing of the Navy Yard, the loss of thousands of manufacturing jobs and the riots during the blackout of 1977.

    ``It would cap the rebirth of Brooklyn,'' said Fred Siegel, a history professor at Cooper Union who lives in Flatbush. ``You'd heal some of the old wounds from the Dodgers having left, and people would discover all the other changes in Brooklyn.''

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/16/nyregion/16NETS.html?ex=1074834000&en=cd4105a7f29fb521&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
     
    #12 KingCheetah, Jan 15, 2004
  13. mrpaige

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    http://www.bball.net/

    I believe is the official site for the project. Has lots of additional info there.
     
    #13 mrpaige, Jan 16, 2004
  14. deadlybulb

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    No fair!!!!

    New York would have two professional team in each sport!!!!

    Giants/Jets

    Yankees/Mets

    Rangers/Islanders

    Knicks/Nets
     
    #14 deadlybulb, Jan 17, 2004
  15. KellyDwyer

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    I only counted three.
     
    #15 KellyDwyer, Jan 17, 2004
  16. Genuine

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    Is there trees coming out the top of the arena?
     
    #16 Genuine, Jan 17, 2004
  17. Lil Pun

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    Yeah there is supposed to be some sort of recreation facility on top of the arena.
     
    #17 Lil Pun, Jan 19, 2004
  18. deadlybulb

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    well, Brooklyin is baisically new york city...
     
    #18 deadlybulb, Jan 19, 2004
  19. KellyDwyer

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    It was a comment on how crappy five of those teams are.
     
    #19 KellyDwyer, Jan 19, 2004
  20. Two Sandwiches

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    The sides of the arena remind me of the Toyota Center....
     
    #20 Two Sandwiches, Jan 19, 2004
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