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[POLL] Do you think Kavanaugh is a sex offender?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Astrodome, Sep 26, 2018.

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Do you think Kavanaugh is a sex offender?

  1. Yes

    50.9%
  2. No

    33.5%
  3. Waiting for testimony

    19.1%
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  1. Surfguy

    Surfguy Contributing Member

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    There is no doubt in my mind the country is more divided than when this Kavanaugh confirmation began. I see a bunch of ramblings of "old men" Republicans right now on TV that are not helping.
     
  2. Dubious

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    The fix was always in, the GOP corpocracy captured their voting base by promising to end abortion, Kennedy was induced to resign (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/06/donald-trump-justice-anthony-kennedy-retirement) and from the Federalist Society's list Trump chose the candidate most likely to prevent him from being charged with crimes while he is in office. The full weight of the GOP's 40 years of partisanship has been brought to bear and will not be denied on any issue, not perjury, sexual assault or fitness for the office. Welcome to tyranny by the moneyed minority.
     
  3. T_Man

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    I don't know if I would call him a sex offender... But I would say he's a liar..

    T_Man
     
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  4. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes, they don't have to interview her. But the point it is that interviewing her wouldn't hurt the investigation. Her lawyers weren't doing anything to harm the investigation.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    Which is very sensible in this case. There is nothing wrong with that. The woman was not easily discredited and hasn't been discredited to this day. Not being able to prove the claim isn't the same as being discredited. She would be discredited if evidence came out that she was in a foreign country when the assault occurred or something that proves it couldn't possibly be true.

    Nothing of the sort has come out like that.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    It's really not sensible, you say that she was "not easily discredited", but that's not really true, she had no credibility whatsoever because there was no evidence or corroboration supporting her claims, if she had some evidence or corroboration held in secret, that's pretty stupid.
     
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  7. Granville

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    Her testimony proved to be uncorroborated bullshit. The people she said were there said they weren’t. End of story
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    Again there was some corroboration. There was absolutely nothing proving she wasn't there, etc.
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    You don't have the facts straight. They said they don't remember. That isn't the same as saying they weren't there and were somewhere else.
     
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  10. DAROckets

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    If any new info regarding the allegations had come out Ford would have been interviewd.After her testimony she was asked if she had anything to add and answered she did not.
     
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  11. Granville

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    Her friend who should have been her best witness said she doesn’t know Kavanaugh.

    Dude her story is equivalent to the ugly person taken to glamor shot to pretty them up and the best you could say about the end product afterward was nice frame.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    Perhaps corroboration means something different to you. Here's a basic definition, "evidence that confirms or supports a statement, theory, or finding; confirmation"

    Using that definition there was absolutely no corroboration of Dr. Ford's story, none of the witnesses that she says was at a party remember ever being at a party like that and her best friend says that she was never at a party with Brett Kavanaugh at any point ever. Those are the people who could corroborate her story, none did. As far as we know there was no party and she made the whole thing up. The burden of proof is on her in this instance, and she simply can't prove any part of her story due to absolutely no corroboration or evidence to support her story as being something that actually happened.
     
  13. PatBev

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    I really hope he didn’t do anything to her but I find this to be a circus show

    Between the ant hill of proof/stories from Ford and the Mt. Everest of reasons why this is just a political tactic from the Dems I don’t really believe her.

    Just the ludicrous connections they try to make at the hearings are dumb. No matter what he says they try to make him a blackout drunk rapist. It’s almost funny listening to them question his character. It’s sound almost like when me and friends are questioning each other to get the other person pissed off

    Those demands she made before the hearing almost was enough for me not to believe her

    It’s a circus show to influence the elections and Democratics will toss her aside when they are done

    Based on her attorneys immature twitter post, seems like he just wants the fame as well
     
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    immature? where have you been these past 2 years? even the council of Churches is now coming out against Kavanaugh, all denominations except the latter day saints.
     
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    They said they don't remember.
     
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  16. Dubious

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    As far as we know, Dr. Ford has a clear memory of the event, evidenced by her Therapist entries and the fact that she told her husband and only came forward after Kavanaugh made the short list. The event was not as indelible over 36 years for those whom it was not traumatic event or were inebriated at the time so as to make a weak effort at corroboration ineffective. Given the July 1st. entry on the Judge's calendar is most likely that the event did happen as she said since she had no reason to lie about it. The Judge obvioulsly lied about his background to appear innocent.

    This is not a trial so 'beyond a reasonable doubt' does not apply. Proclaiming the Judge "innocent" is certainly more of a stretch than saying the event may have happened. And it is just one more reason he should be refused a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court. You also have claims of a partisan conspiracy like a tin-foil-hatter. a failure to control his emotions, disrespect for the proceedings and members of the Senate and lying under oath.
     
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  17. edwardc

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    This was no real investigation 4 days of not talking to possible witnesses which don't remember the events. This is not the first 48 they should have done a in depth investigation like there doing with the russian investigation.
     
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    Please stop spreading ignorance

    “Simply put, Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford,” Mr. Walsh said.
     
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