1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Phil Taylor Disses Dream

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Steve_Francis_rules, Apr 15, 2001.

  1. Steve_Francis_rules

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 1999
    Messages:
    8,467
    Likes Received:
    300
    In this week's <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/news/2001/04/13/taylor_mailbag/">mailbag</a>, Phil Taylor answers a question regarding Karl Malone's place among the all-time greats. Taylor then lists his all-time top 10, and leaves Hakeem off the list. I was completely shocked and so I wrote this letter to his mailbag, hoping it will be answered next week:

    I agree with most of your list of the top 10 players ever, but I was shocked that you left Hakeem Olajuwon off of the list. How can you ignore 26000 points, 13000 rebounds, 3000 assists, 2000 steals, 3700 blocks (all-time leader), 2 championships, 2 finals MVPs, 1 regular season MVP, 2 Defensive Player of the Year Awards, 12 All-NBA (1st, 2nd, & 3rd) team selections, 13 seasons averaging 20+ points, 12 seasons averaging 10+ rebounds, and countless clutch plays in leading the Houston Rockets for many years? Please answer this question in your next mailbag because I (like many other basketball fans, no doubt) am astounded that these credentials don't place Olajuwon near the top of your list of the greatest NBA players.



    I am making a call to all Rockets fans to <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/email/nbamailbag/">give Phil Taylor a piece of your mind</a> about his obvious oversight.

    ------------------


    [This message has been edited by Steve_Francis_rules (edited April 15, 2001).]
     
  2. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    65,168
    Likes Received:
    32,865
    U know something
    and your thread reminds me of this
    WHY DO FOLX SAY HOUSTONIANS ARE FAIRWEATHER FANS
    but
    D*MN NEAR EVERY SPORT SITES COMPLAINS ABOUT
    US COMPLAINING ABOUT THE LACK OF RESPECT ALL THE TIME

    I mean they make an unflattering remark about
    a Rocket or slight the Rockets . . .
    The Fans are All over them . . .
    E-mailing them to death . . .

    that is fairweather?

    We may not have the money to make every game
    but I'd be curious as to the Ratings over Rockets
    games in this city.

    Rocket River

    ------------------
     
  3. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    65,168
    Likes Received:
    32,865
    ALSO U notice
    further down he talks about Webber
    and says NY and Houston have to fall through
    before Webber would consider indiana?

    So many folx have us #2 on the list

    Rocket River

    ------------------
     
  4. edc

    edc Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2000
    Messages:
    3,127
    Likes Received:
    41
    RocketRiver said:
    As far as the FSN ratings go, the Rockets TV ratings have been awful of late. Games over the past few weeks have averaged in the low-middle 1's. For comparison sake, everyone is yelling about the XFL on NBC at ratings between 1.7 and 2.0

    ------------------
     
  5. OT

    OT Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2000
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Good post SF Rules. All those stats are awesome when they are all put together. Dream has to be in the top 10.

    ------------------
     
  6. KD

    KD Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2001
    Messages:
    190
    Likes Received:
    0
    It is hard to knock out people like Oscar Robertson, but Dream is definitely better than Malone because of his clutch play. If you look at the playoffs stats compared to regular season ones, Hakeem, MJ and Miller are the only true clutch players in the last decade. Malone is a great background man for MJ posters.

    ------------------
     
  7. unt2003

    unt2003 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2001
    Messages:
    255
    Likes Received:
    0
    phil taylor probably was a former employee of Sports Ilustrated. Sometime, i feel sorry for Hakeem for playing in a small market like Houston. Anyways, the Dream will get his do in due tume.

    ------------------
     
  8. haven

    haven Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 1999
    Messages:
    7,945
    Likes Received:
    14
    Utah isn't small market? I'd say Malone generally gets less respect than he deserves as well.

    I really doubt that there is any disrespect meant to Hakeem here. Malone is still playing very well, and Hakeem has obviously declined. At present, that's going to make people lean towards Malone. When both are retired, that won't be a factor.

    For me, the question is that of longevity versus brilliance. Malone was better longer - he's 2nd all time in scoring. Pretty frickin' impressive. But he never won a championship... and you can't really claim it's from lack of talent on his team. With Stockton and Hornacek, he's had teams with more support than the 94 Rockets.

    I'd pick Hakeem. But it's not an obvious choice.

    ------------------
    I would believe only in a God who could dance. - Friedrich Nietzsche

    Boston College - NCAA Hockey National Champions 2001
     
  9. ZRB

    ZRB Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2000
    Messages:
    6,818
    Likes Received:
    4
    The only thing Malone has done in his career is master the art of manipulating the refs. 13,000 of his points are from his free throws, earned by flopping and elbowing every thing in sight. Granted, he has a great fade away jumper. That's about it. Fadeaways and free throws. There's brilliance for you. Hakeem should be on that list above several of those players. In the top 5 at least. Larry Bird? Please. He was just a pure shooter with hustle.

    ------------------
    Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon is the greatest player in the history of basketball. If you disagree, you are not a Rocket fan.

    Protrolls.com!
     
  10. Big Ralph Sampson

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2001
    Messages:
    31
    Likes Received:
    0
    Phil Taylor is the biggest moron in all of the media. He has no credibility and is a biased jordan fan. He could suck a fat d.

    ------------------
     
  11. haven

    haven Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 1999
    Messages:
    7,945
    Likes Received:
    14
    Biased Jordan fan? Who isn't, at least a little, either way?

    If you're fair at all, you recognize that Jordan was the best player ever. Hakeem had two years in which he *may* have been better than anyone else... ever. But over the length of their careers, Jordan is first. Just because someone celebrates MJ doesn't make him biased. Heck, MJ won even me over, and I have Rocket's blinders.

    ZRB: I don't think you've watched Malone play much, then. He's the best shooting PF who can also post up that's ever played the game. Lots of PF's can do one or the other, but Malone could do both very well. He's also an excellent passer, and good (but not great) on the defensive end.

    I *hate* Utah... but why diminish the Rocket's accomplishments in beating them twice en route to the championship by undervaluing them?

    If you dislike Malone... and I do... at least be fair. He WAS a horrible cheat... he's a redneck... he's a Republican (ha ha)... and he plays for the Jazz. That's enough for me. But he was a terrific player.

    ------------------
    I would believe only in a God who could dance. - Friedrich Nietzsche

    Boston College - NCAA Hockey National Champions 2001
     
  12. ZRB

    ZRB Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2000
    Messages:
    6,818
    Likes Received:
    4
    Believe me, I have watched a LOT of Malone over the years. He has/had a good post up game, and a brilliant fadeaway. Other than that, his game has been all about cheating. Dirty play, cheating, and flops for all. He is scum. That kind of game means he should be bumped off the list.

    ------------------
    Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon is the greatest player in the history of basketball. If you disagree, you are not a Rocket fan.

    Protrolls.com!
     

Share This Page