I couldnt agree more. Hey, dont sweat lancet. People (jeff, r2k and fisher)with Mental Blocks wouldnt understand the concept.
You make it sound as though some of us just starting watching basketball a couple days ago. Whats there to understand about the game of backetball? You catch, pass, rebound and shoot right? Maybe you are right. Maybe some of us (so called YOF) dont understand the game of basketball. Perhaps you would like to explain(in detailed) to us why we've had 5 straight losing seasons.
Not to speak for Jeff, but there is much, much more to the game of basketball besides catching, passing, rebounding and shooting. If you think thats all there is to understand, then you don't get it. 5 straight losing seasons???? I am sure you mean, 4 straight lottery seasons, two of which, the team was above .500.
I was being a little srarcastic there coddell. I definitely know theres more to basketball. Like dribbling the ball for 23 seconds than throw a prayer up in the air, hoping the basketball gods would guide it in the hope. Any non-playoff season is a LOSING season to me. But than again we all have our own definitions of Losing&Winning. Because for some us a win is a win. Doesnt matter if its ugly, just as long as we win. Some of us are happy with that and a few aren't. I'm one of the few that nots. A lucky win is not a legit win. A rather we win with poise and grace. I rather we Lose than get a lucky WIN.
I read this this thread...for the most part. And I'm not sure if anyone has agreed yet on a good definition of a YOF, so I thought I'd put my 2 cents in. When it comes to the YOFs, I follow this simple strategy. Two scenarios: Rockets play an important game, they win. Yao scores 10 points, grabs 6 boards and plays limited minutes. Guards are the heroes. OR Rockets play the same important game, they lose. Yao scores 35 points, rips down 18 boards and blocks 5 shots. He dominates everytime he touches the ball, but the team loses. Now, are you just as happy, if not more happy, with the second scenario than you are the first one? If so, you are a YOF. Oh, and be honest with yourself. Team is what is important, and wins and losses are the direct measurment of the team, not Yao's stats.
Hopefully, this thread will help raising the awareness among certain members that it is a BBS intended for the team of Rockets, instead of any specific player. Being a fan that came to this board because of YAO, I enjoy every progress made by Rockets as well as by YAO. But I have to admit that in the beginning my care for Rockets as a team was simply overwhelmed by my desire for YAO to succeed. It just takes time to finish the transition. PLEASE, please give our friends (esp. those already labeled as YOF) more time so that the connection between them and Rockets can go stronger before they realize that they were alienating themselves from the majority of fans here by being YOF. I appreciate the “open arms” I received from CC.net when I came here as a YAO fan, and believe CF.net will thrive further by being open and generous as it has always been. Also, I wish EVERY fan can appreciate what Houston means to YAO and what CF.net means to the fans from all over the world. As Monique said: ‘Show sum love for the city and organization that has open to their arms to the big man from day 1. ‘ Go Rockets, Go CF.net!
My position on this is pretty much identical to dragon's. Clutch, maybe you would like to clarify your position? The YOF issue has been debated many times, with me getting involved in the past, but I think your opinion as the owner of the site is particularly important, and I will definitely respect it (though I certainly do not agree with the stereotypes that come with your definition of YOF). Jeff seems ok with YOFs (as per your definition, thanks Jeff!)... but would also like to know your view. If you don't like people like me being here, I'll leave too, no hard feelings - you're the owner, it's totally up to you. Just to qualify my reasons for bringing this up: Whether I stay or not to the rest of the community isn't that big a deal since I don't post much anyway; but for me, it isn't exactly pleasant to see yourself being labled and then stereotyped as a person who does various acts of stupidity on the board every other day, and especially so when the admins don't really want you wasting their bandwidth and so on. I love reading and putting up the odd post on this site, but if it's such a strain for both parties, then leaving is the best option for everyone.
It's really hilarious to cite a player from another pathetic team to deride your own player and claim you are faithful at the same time. Anyway, hopefully, the current difference booming in this site is just a growing pain like Yao's girly play and both of them will be gone soon. BTW, this is a private site, so I think the owner and the admins have every right to comment on any post or poster. The definition of YOF is a good step foward to classify different groups, and ultimately state clearly that some certain groups are not welcome. I will be the first one leaving even though I am not a so-called YOF. BBS is for fun after a whole day's work. If that's not the case anymore, then it's time to move on.
Wrong, low post players need people to pass them the ball. Have u ever played ball? Big men needs to establish position and teammates have to get them the ball.
Exactly. Big men need to establish position and THEN teamates have to get them the ball. Unfortunately, Yao has had trouble with positioning, and thus, his teamates cant always get him the ball. If a big man cant get consistent positining, then he is not dominant.
Yao got position plenty of times today against the wolves yet they still failed to pass him the ball. He wasn't even being double teamed, but was guarding by Garnett most of the time. Doc Rivers mentioned it numerous times. If you think someone who has played in this league and coached in this league is wrong, then I don't know what else to say.
Xenogears, Get use to it. Just because Yao has position, doesnt mean they are going to pass it to him every time or that they SHOULD pass it to him every time. The offense was efficient today, besides the turnovers. We had balanced scoring tonight and Yao still got 16 shots. Only someone like yourself would complain about Yao only getting 16 shots. I really feel sorry for you.
To compare him with the NBA history is unfair. Today NBA is much more defensive-oriented with the game rule changed. Just like soccer, in the past , great players shot more than today's. When we tell the facts, you talked about other things unrelevant. Simly say, you are a Yao hater.
Man don't shoot the messenger. I wasn't really complaining much about today's game. Yao got 16 shots which is good. I only pointed out that one play where he was wide open and REPEATING the comments said by Doc Rivers. If you want to blame someone, blame Doc Rivers for mentioning it so much during today's game. Sheesh, some YOBs can be so sensitive.
Exactly. You ONLY pointed out that one play. Doc Rivers complimented all the aspects of the win in addition to that ONE play. Step up Xenogears. Be like Doc!!
