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Sources: Rockets have eyes on Jimmy B

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyberx, Sep 18, 2018.

  1. finsraider

    finsraider Member

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    That's the cost of going all in too early. They should have held onto their assets and let Wiggins get an offer from the market. Now they are doomed.
     
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    Thomas Joseph Thibodeau is gonna love Anthony Leon Tucker!

    But on the flip side, you see where guys like J.J. Redick are coming from. You are just an asset and could be flipped in 6 months. No thanks! I'll sign with Philly!

    “They offered four [years] and then they went three. Daryl [Morey] always has a million things going on, like in A Beautiful Mind with all of the stuff written on the chalkboard. I’m sure he had four or five deals out there [he was working on]. The day before free agency, I thought it was a four-year deal. Chris Paul and I talked for about 30 minutes the night before free agency started. I wanted to go there.

    “[It didn’t work out] – some of it was numbers and some of it was other factors like relocating the family and – I hate to say this – but you never know with Daryl and how he operates. A three-year deal could really be a six-month deal if you get dealt at the trade deadline for a superstar as part of a package of six.”
     
  3. JuNx

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    Wish we could end up with:

    CP3/MCW/Knight
    Harden/Green
    Butler/Ennis
    P.J/Melo/Caboclo
    Capela/Hartenstein/Chriss(or part of the trade)
     
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    If PJ is included, no deal. Tucker gives us the option to play smallball. If you trade him there is virtually no way we can contain GS. We just proved last year that we can at the minimal slow them down. PJ is the reason
     
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    That's interesting...fwiw the data on offense is what i would've expected, but for some reason i thought George would've had the edge on defense and rebounding.
     
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    I agree 99%, fixed that last 1% for you. :) 1000% Championship team right there. Although like most, I would HATE to lost Ego and PJ both. :(
     
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    Is that their new ranking from NBA live?

    How the hell do you quantify roll gravity. Wtf
     
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  9. mockster

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    Yep, it makes you wonder if this is why and continue to be why we don’t pull many role players FAs. This isn’t new tactic by teams but morey is very known for his flipping. If we trade both Gordon and Tucker I think we could have major trust issues but in the end it may not even matter with a ring.
     
  10. craguin

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    Per Marks, we don't have players assigned to 2-way contracts; just three standard NBA contracts with Exhibit 10 attached...

    The non-guaranteed contracts don't fully guarantee until 1/10/2019. I don't think you can use them for salary matching until 1/10/2019 at the earliest.

    Converting Clark/Edwards to 2-way contracts...
    Two of the Exhibit 10 contracts could convert to 2-way before the start of the regular season, and then wait another 30-day period to trade, but only up to $50k max is guaranteed until January 20, 2019.

    Per the FAQ, 2-way contracts are excluded from Team Salary.
    CBA FAQ #83:
    Other rules related to Exhibit 10:
    • A contract must be converted to a Two-Way contract prior to the start of the regular season (including during the July Moratorium).
    CBA FAQ #82:
    A Two-Way player is not included in his team’s Team Salary (see question number 13), so teams don’t need cap room or an exception to sign, acquire or convert (see question number 83) a Two-Way contract. A player is not credited for a day of NBA service during training camp or the playoffs, or on days he is traveling between his NBA and G-League teams.

    A Two-Way player’s salary may be guaranteed (see question number 63) for no more than $50,000, which is pro-rated if he signs after the start of the season. If a player is waived from a standard NBA contract with a guarantee greater than $50,000, then for the rest of that season he cannot play for that team’s G-League affiliate or sign a Two-Way contract with any team.

    On January 20 all Two-Way salaries become fully guaranteed for the remainder of that season. Two-Way players are guaranteed to receive their full Two-Way salary, plus any earned NBA salary.

    A Two-Way player can be traded 30 days after he is signed. A Two-Way player never creates a trade exception (see question number 85) when he is traded.

    Re: JB's trade kicker -
     
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  11. kevC

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    We've had tracking cameras for years now.
     
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    Not to rebounding because he played with triple double russ
     
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    Lol true, i didn't consider that :D
     
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    Can't Morey guarantee contracts whenever he pleases for the most part though? As rookies, they should be tradeable after 30 days.


    And i'm not sure how to interpret that last part about JB correct, Butler's contract isn't 20.4 mill but rather 19.8? Or is it permanently 20.4 mill due to his kicker being activated previously?
     
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    just checking in on 120th page to see if JB is a rocket yet...
    but not yet..:(
     
  16. daywalker02

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    And both are put among bigs so the qualified field included Centers. (Must read the fine print)

    Both players are swing men, they should be inbetween smalls and bigs.

    I doubt that their shooting is A and A- among guards as well.
     
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    I think we would if we traded Tucker.

    When EGo signed it was a different team with a different mission. Money was flying all over the place and we had just signed one of his best friends (Ryno). We also weren't really competing at that point. Since then, Beverley, Ariza and Ryno are gone from the starting unit. He got 2 years out of 4, won 6th man of the year and would be moving into the starting lineup with another team. There's enough going on there that it doesn't look like we completely ignored the human element.

    Tucker would be different. He came here because of CP3, and he just signed a year ago. Including him in the trade would be a disappointment, and no matter what other people say, he's not replaceable unless we are trading for Millsap and his $30 million per year contract.

    One thing that I don't see anyone talking about is if we trade Tucker, our 5-out lineup dies. That lineup is a key differentiator for us, and is critically important against Golden State.
     
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    Tim MacMahon:

    https://sportsradio610.radio.com/me...tarts-melo-drama-and-jimmy-butler-possibility

    We all know Daryl Morey loves stars. He's a star chaser. He chased Melo for years & finally got him. He went after Dwight Howard. No question the Rockets have interest. Depending on the deal, Butler could vault them right back into contention challenging the Warriors. It'll take Eric Gordon & a whole lot of other stuff. I do firmly believe if Tucker is in the deal, D'Antoni would have issues with it. He loves Tucker, believes he's the soul of this team & doesn't want to give him up.

    Most interesting thing we heard on media day that went maybe under the radar was when Tilman Fertitta was talking and how brutal the LT is & we cannot go into the repeater tax. Harden is on a max deal, CP3 is on a max deal, Capela got a big chunk. Those 3 guys three years down the road will combine for $100M. If you don't want to be in the repeater LT and are trading for Butler this year, are you doing it as a one-year rental? You're gonna be paying some LT.
     
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  19. craguin

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    Sounds like 'modification'; don't know if the answer is a definitive "Yes" ← @heypartner - what do you say?
    60. In what other ways can an existing contract be modified?
    Other than extensions (see question number 58) and renegotiations (see question number 59), a team and player can mutually modify an existing contract as follows:
    • To alter the amount of compensation protection -- i.e., the guarantee (see question number 63). This is commonly done as part of a buyout (see question number 66).
    I believe you may subtract $604,152 from his $20.4M cap hit.
     
  20. daywalker02

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    Even if that is true, it's over. Bzedelik (Biggly D) is gone. Very likely not coming back for good.
     

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